• Uh, Chiefman21, he had a “strategy question”, not “a request for blind, fool-hearty luck.”

    :roll:


  • @TheJediCharles:

    “hehe, double team germany and ignore japan, i LOVE it when they do that you can chew up russia really quickly when your ignored.”

    Yea, that whole “let’s take down Germany first/forget about Japan” strategy is a joke. Anytime my opponent(s) say that or look like they’re doing it I think “well, this one’s in the bag.” Sometimes I’ll tell them, “man, don’t waste the game on that. You’ll just loose. Try something more interesting.” But, that makes 'em more confident that I’m trying to save myself against a good plan until they suddenly find themselves covered in Japanese chips and say, “man, he was right.”

    But, then they turn right around and make the same mistake again.

    Eyeyeye.

    I was playing a game on the Zone yesterday as Japan and the Allies used that against me. They ignored me and I was doing well. I had the best economy out of all the pwoers as I was expanding toward Moscow. My ally was a jerk. He was a know-it-all and was annoying as hell. WE would have won, but he quit in the middle and all of a sudden the game ended. That sucked.


  • I was playing a game on the Zone yesterday…

    I did a search for this ‘Zone’ you mentioned, found it, and they already claim they don’t support A&A there anymore. What’s up with that? I never got to try it.

    :cry:


  • Yeah, did they close down A&A or what!?


  • You can still play over the zone, but they dont provide technical support for the game.


  • @TheJediCharles:

    I was playing a game on the Zone yesterday…

    I did a search for this ‘Zone’ you mentioned, found it, and they already claim they don’t support A&A there anymore. What’s up with that? I never got to try it.

    :cry:

    Try gamespy, I think you can play there.
    Not many peeps though.


  • You can play on GameSpy (last I checked) but there are very few players there…

    As far as the Germany pile-on strategy, it is basically an easy strategy that doesn’t require a lot of thought and is solid if unspectacular. It will win a few games, leading the people that do it to think they are clever strategists. What it really does is put all the pressure for the Axis on Japan and therefore the Japan player has to be pretty active in order for the Axis to win.

    One thing to do, heathbar is think of the game in naval terms–UK/USA/Japan have it (and depend on it), Germany and USSR don’t. The only way USA/UK can put pressure on you (aside from a buildup in USSR or by airraids) is to build fleet units to attack you, so the easiest way to prevent that is to block their fleets. But this is hard to do for Germany because they are not essentially a naval power, so have to rely on expensive FTRs rather than less-expensive SUBs and more efficient CVs: often if you try to float any of these they are immediately sunk and HUGE IPC investments lost.

    You definitely need to take over Africa, but this will get difficult when the Allies sink your navy. One thing you can do is have Japan sieze India w/ support of 1/2 her navy and then sail thru the Suez–now you’ve got a more substantial Navy in the Med which helps to threaten the Allies’ TRs–it also makes it less risky to build a few SUBs when they have a force defending them–a few SUBs, if they survive the trip to the Atlantic and combined w/ air power, can majorly disrupt Allied invasion plans and are a LOT more cost-effective for this purpose than just FTRs.

    Most importantly, don’t let the Allies get off with an easy trade: if there is NO PRESSURE on Japan, they should have to suffer for it–Japan should take advantage quickly and start attacking in Asia and linking up w/ German forces to help them out.


  • “You definitely need to take over Africa, but this will get difficult when the Allies sink your navy. One thing you can do is have Japan sieze India w/ support of 1/2 her navy and then sail thru the Suez–now you’ve got a more substantial Navy in the Med which helps to threaten the Allies’ TRs–it also makes it less risky to build a few SUBs when they have a force defending them–a few SUBs, if they survive the trip to the Atlantic and combined w/ air power, can majorly disrupt Allied invasion plans and are a LOT more cost-effective for this purpose than just FTRs.”

    I like your strategy of using 1/2 (any specifics?) of the Japanese Imperial Navy to try and make a landing in India T1. This would put Japan in a perfect position to support the Germany Navy. However, this would mean that Germany has to control Syria and Egypt T2. Also, Germany is most vulnerable in T2 and must avoid getting hit by UK’s T2 (provided land their ftrs and bmb T1 in Ukraine or the Caucacus). Will the other 1/2 Japanese Navy still Pearl Harbor. This can be done, though you risk losing those expensive Jap Zeros and let the American Navy stationed in WUSA get away. But if this plan works as it should, you can help the Germans in Africa, while using the Japanese Navy left from Pearl Harbor to cut through New Zealand and Australia

    BTW: Nice to see you around, Ozone. :wink:


  • Thanks, TG! :)

    I’ve been experimenting with a couple of different options but I can’t seem to make it work in conjunction w/ an effective Pearl Harbor (a big problem). I think a minimum force that might be useful to Germany is either 2 BBs or a CV and at least 1 FTR + any possible support craft (thus 1/2 of the “starting fleet”). If anybody can figure a reliable way to do a P.H. and this as well it’d be really cool. Only other way I can figure is to take Australia T1 (w/ 1 INF from Philippines, 1 from Borneo, 1 TR from Philippines, 1 CV fron Solomons, 1 FTR from Solomons & 1 BB from Solomons w/ the Carolines SUB for defense). This is a pretty hefty force for a T2 invasion of India–possibly TOO much, and this lets the USA fleet withdraw into the Atlantic undamaged if such is their want. I guess the theory is that the real battleground is in Europe/Africa (in the Allied-Germany pileup) so it’s better if Japan moves her attack forces there early rather than in Asia where she will presumably dominate. Plan definitely needs some work, but I think w/ some tweaking it could be workable…

    Of course, German ownership of the Suez is a MUST!

    I played this scenario 1nce and it worked, next time the Suez was blocked and the plan was thwarted–watch out!

    Ozone27


  • Hmmm… yeah, the finding the perfect balance is always key. However, I think the best case for a two pronged offensive is if the Pearl Harbor invasion is based on sea, leaving the 1 CV (w/ 1 ftr) free to support Germany’s role in the Suez. By doing so, I suggest to sending 2 BB’s, 1 sub, 1 ftr (launched off the CV, lands back at Wake) under these conditions, I will win 96% of the time. Though I will probably lose the sub and trns (35% chance). I will probably lose the counterattack, though I won’t think the American will press his luck by then shifting to a Japan first strat (which will actually be helpful to you :wink:)

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