Unless I’m mistaken, don’t AA-guns in 1940 only fire at a max of 3 enemy planes?
The number of AA shots is either 3x the number of AA,or the number of planes,whichever is the lesser. Right Krieg?
Chinese aa gun
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The expert (Krieghund) already spoke on the topic and said that the aa gun belongs to china.
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I would agree that it would belong to the Chinese, in the scenario you mentioned. Since the English took the teritory back it (the land) would automatically belong back to China the original owner of the teritory and the AA Gun is sitting there for defense for whoever has troops in the teritory. So on it’s next turn China could very well place it new troops on that teritory, then if Japan attacked the teritory the Chinese should be able to use it.
My question is; in the rules it mentions that if an IC was built by another power in a Chinese teritory and the chinese take bakc control of the teritory the IC is now removed. The chinese are limited to only infanty and artillary. So, should the AA Gun be remove base on this as well? I think not, I like the idea of the Chinese getting a little more help. What do the experts think?
The rules limit the Chinese to build only infantry and artillery, it doesn’t forbid them from owning anything else. If that happened then the Chinese would not be able to have the Flying Tigers fighter at the beginning of the game. The game does forbid them to have ICs, air or naval bases, but those are defined as a different unit type (ICs and Bases) while AA Guns belong to the Ground Units type.
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it was originally UK, so it diverts to UK
that would make most sense -
@Frontovik:
it was originally UK, so it diverts to UK
that would make most senseYou can always use a house rule to keep it that way :-)
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I believe this rule has been the same for Classic, Revised, AA50, and AA42.
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Yes Butcher ( you are also correct )
Krieghund is correct here, and it has been an argumant I have found in another Axis and Allies form on Axis and Allies Revised Edition just nearly two years ago, to try to compare the same question on AA guns. It’s an interesting 5 page discussion and Krieg ( if you remember this far back ) put’s the record stright on the 4th page. Here is the link to save you all searching for it! http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=10974.0
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I believe this rule has been the same for Classic, Revised, AA50, and AA42.
Actually the change came if AA50 if I’m not mistaken.
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I believe this rule has been the same for Classic, Revised, AA50, and AA42.
Actually the change came if AA50 if I’m not mistaken.
Nope, it’s always been this way.
Concerning ownership of recaptured AAs? The Revised manual states: “When you liberate a territory containing a captured AA control reverts to the original owner”. This is ambiguous regarding what original ownership meant (the territory or the AA Gun), but on the official online errata it clearly says:
“If I liberate a friendly power’s territory, what happens to the antiaircraft guns and industrial complexes there?
They are returned to the control of the original controller.”The change came to the current rules came with LHTR, not with AA50 as I mentioned above.
EDIT: Krieghund, you are right on all of the above. The wording on the errata is also ambiguous. My mistake.
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In fact chinese magic-jedi-lightsabres only destroy ICs, the manual doesn’t says a word of naval and air bases, so China can own them
That’s you get when doing ACME walls and funny special rules for a playing power: a bunch of unnecesary bugs and exceptions. KISS and give China normal rules in global game :wink:
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What is ACME wall, and what does KISS stand for.
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ACME wall is used to name the “invisible” wall that prevent Chinese force from leaving China. To some people, like Funcioneta, this is outrageous. But for some, if not most of us, it doesn’t really matter.
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But for some, if not most of us, it doesn’t really matter.
:-D +1 to you.
(KISS = Keep It Simple Stupid)
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Thanks, that explains a lot.
+1 :-) (if I was able too, sorry) :oops:
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