"Right now Iran wants power it does not deserve and will use negitivly, so how do you purpose we stop them?
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Who are you, sir, to determine if Iran does not deserve more power/influence?
I’m asking this :
Should each country in this world have the same power of influence?
Should the more rich have more influence?
Should the more powerful (military) have more influence?
Iran, as a nation, has the right to govern in his territory, and has the right to play his part in the international scence. They have a crazy Leader that said many times that Israel should be wiped out of the world. But that crazy leader doesn’t make a country. If we (WEST) attack Iran with sanctions, of course that crazy man will gain in power.
Citing Goering is a big - for you. Like, does that stupid man has some sort of influence over you? Does his words fill your mind with pleasure? Or are you that smart that you believe all your brothers/sisters to be plain dumb and that they will listen to their governments without any capabilities of criticism?
Look at Korea, for example. If you want to defeat them diplomatically, go negociate with China. China is like the last supporter of North Korea. Remove China and see if North Korea will continue to act stupidly.
“that sounds like post-modern BS to me. What is diplomacy based upon if not the willingness to harshly use econamic or military power? sure, many nations have common interests, but then diplomacy is easy”
To a certain extent, all countries have some sort of common interests.
If you believe diplomacy is all about : do this or you will be crushed by our military/economy, you are wrong. Economy and Military are tools of diplomacy and can be used in some cases. But if you believe military power is the only way of negotiation, you are dead wrong again and need to go breathe some optimism air. This world isn’t just evil. Or maybe Goering got into you?
I agree that not all countries are good. BUT. If we could go back into time, I wouldn’t recommand using military to strike first at countries like Rawnda or Nazi Germany.
WHY???
I am all against utilitarism calculations. If you could kill X people to save 100 times X more, would yo do it? I wouldn’t do it
Apply it to our world. Should we destroy Iran and North Korea to protect the rest of the world (although it is very likely that not the whole world perceive those two countries as threats)? We will killing, what, some millions of people to protect life of billions!
And sorry for my bad phrasing/logic. My English, as you can see, is not very good. And since I am doing some homeworks at the same time, I don’t have time to make beautiful sentenses.