Elche (+18) vs Gamerman01 (x) BM4 rematch


  • Exactly. Too risky to take 2-3 ground units away from the Paris attack, thanks for confirming that


  • Tank goes out without even a whimper. I knew as soon as I saw the combat differential summary that it had been smoked lol


  • Lost a 98%er in the wrong place, but didn’t get hit by Leningrad AA at least. Ouch, that’s what I get for moving too many units into combat movement. Well, I think the defenses will hold.

    G6.tsvg


  • But, credit where it’s due (to you). I only had one bomber terrorizing Bryansk because I needed a tac back to Rome.


  • You are playing the Allies well. Maybe they are your strong side too? Good pressure on both maps.

    Playing the Axis is such a pain to me. At least it’s a rush to plow into Stalingrad and the Caucasus oil fields. I’d better enjoy it before it’s all taken away from me.

    And those China rules are brutal. I guess they reduced the Yunnan NO and gave Japan an easy one with Iwo for 3, but still, garrisoning China from the east OR the west is really tough. I’m still going with the old strategy of rushing India, and clean up China later, obviously. But will I even be able to pull it off.


  • Thanks but its excellent play from you with Axis. You get India but you have to hold it and its far away from Japan. I cannot attack your planes in Thailand, only with help from Marti and therefore i didnt attack. I hope I can conquer this Airport later.


  • You are right with the China rules. Its much more difficult to win with Axis than in OOB.


  • Game History

    Round: 6
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 1 artillery, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Tambov to Volgograd
            2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Samara to Volgograd
            5 armour, 2 fighters, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Volgograd
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
                  Russians take Western Ukraine from Germans
    
        Combat - Russians
            Battle in Volgograd
                Russians attack with 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 7 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 3 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 10 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys
                    Germans roll AA dice in Volgograd : 1/3 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Russians lost in Volgograd
                    Russians roll dice for 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 7 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Volgograd, round 2 : 8/20 hits, 6,50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 aaGun, 3 armour, 4 artilleries, 10 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys in Volgograd, round 2 : 7/20 hits, 7,17 expected hits
                    7 infantry owned by the Russians, 1 aaGun owned by the Germans and 7 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Volgograd
                    Russians roll dice for 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Volgograd, round 3 : 4/13 hits, 5,33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 4 artilleries, 3 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys in Volgograd, round 3 : 4/13 hits, 4,83 expected hits
                    4 mech_infantrys owned by the Russians, 3 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Volgograd
                    Russians roll dice for 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in Volgograd, round 4 : 2/9 hits, 4,33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 4 artilleries and 2 mech_infantrys in Volgograd, round 4 : 4/9 hits, 3,50 expected hits
                    2 armour owned by the Russians, 2 artilleries owned by the Russians and 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Volgograd
                1 tactical_bomber owned by the Russians and 1 fighter owned by the Russians retreated
                3 armour owned by the Russians retreated to Samara
                Germans win with 3 armour and 4 artilleries remaining. Battle score for attacker is -20
                Casualties for Russians: 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 7 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys
                Casualties for Germans: 1 aaGun, 10 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            3 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Samara
            1 aaGun moved from Russia to Samara
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Volgograd to Russia
            1 fighter moved from Volgograd to Russia
            11 infantry moved from Russia to Samara
            6 infantry moved from Russia to Samara
            4 artilleries moved from Russia to Samara
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            2 infantry moved from Vologda to Archangel
            1 artillery moved from Vologda to Archangel
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Vologda
            1 artillery moved from Russia to Vologda
            2 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk
            1 artillery moved from Russia to Smolensk
            1 artillery moved from Russia to Vologda
    
        Place Units - Russians
            1 artillery, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Russia
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 21 PUs; end with 21 PUs
            Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 23 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans AA : 0,50
    Germans regular : -0,50
    Russians regular : -2,17
    

    r6 (2).tsvg


  • Feel free to change casualties in Volgograd. I thought the russians won this battle. Only in historie.


  • I realized after completing the move yesterday I made 2 mistakes there. One is assuming I would win a 98% and moving too many units in combat move to Stalingrad and Caucasus. Two is not leaving stronger defenses, because of long supply lines. Still trying to learn the Axis in G40 but I’m learning a lot, fast.

    Wow, excitement at Stalingrad. I was lucky to get an AA hit and really, to not lose more than I did.


  • r6-2.tsvg

    Thanks for giving me retroactive casualty choice - I am going to lose 3 artillery instead of losing 3 mech -

    Here is the revised map before Japan goes, even though you will probably just look after Japan’s turn


  • I need India so badly this turn. Japan has multiple issues. It’s daring to try for even one money island this turn, and China is about to get big money. I look forward to seeing what I come up with :face_with_head_bandage:


  • And I hope the Z112 situation messes with your head as much as it did mine. :grinning:


  • I moved the cruiser and marine to Z42 but didn’t click the marine onto Java like I intended.

    His attack may matter because I only scored 1 hit with 2 infantry, 2 fighter and tac. The marine is supposed to be there so if you don’t mind, I’ll roll for him here.

    [dice 1d6<3]


  • 1d6<3: 2; Hits: 1


  • OK, marine gets the much needed 2nd hit

    Your artillery hit in the 2nd round but with my marine being in there like I intended, there was no second round so I will edit my infantry back unless you protest. Thanks


  • Oops, after rolling 6 I realized Jehol is amphibious so I went out of order



  • No problem and no protest.
    Dont look for your original italian fleet. Its on the ground of the sea :blush:
    Game History

    Round: 6
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            1 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Southern France
            1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 21 Sea Zone to Guam
    
        Combat - Americans
            Battle in Guam
            Battle in Southern France
            Battle in 125 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 submarine
                    Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 125 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 125 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 125 Sea Zone
                Americans win, taking Guam from Japanese, taking Southern France from Italians, taking 125 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 125 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Egypt to Syria
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Tunisia to Tobruk
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
            1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to 54 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 2 destroyers, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar
            2 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 102 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Americans
            1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone
            1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Eastern United States
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 fighter placed in Western United States
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 53 PUs; end with 53 PUs
            Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 58 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 68 PUs
            Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
                  Chinese take Burma from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi
                  Chinese take Kiangsi from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsu
                  Chinese take Kiangsu from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Shantung
                  Chinese take Shantung from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hunan
            7 infantry moved from Anhwe to Jehol
    
        Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Jehol
                Chinese attack with 7 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 7 infantry in Jehol, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Jehol, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Jehol
                Chinese win, taking Jehol from Japanese with 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Chinese
            2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
    
        Place Units - Chinese
            2 infantry placed in Jehol
            3 infantry placed in Yunnan
            Chinese undo move 2.
            3 infantry placed in Burma
    
        Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 20 PUs; end with 20 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 armour, 2 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            1 fighter moved from Scotland to Holland Belgium
            3 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Holland Belgium
            1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 81 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Egypt to 99 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 80 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Anhwe to 19 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in 19 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 fighter
                Japanese defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 19 Sea Zone
                British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
            Battle in Holland Belgium
                British attack with 4 fighters and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 2 infantry
                    British roll dice for 2 cruisers in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 4 fighters and 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2,33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium
                British win, taking Holland Belgium from Germans with 4 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Battle in 99 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
                Italians defend with 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
                    British roll dice for 2 submarines in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Italians
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Italians, 1 submarine owned by the Italians and 2 submarines owned by the British lost in 99 Sea Zone
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 99 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in 99 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British and 2 cruisers owned by the Italians lost in 99 Sea Zone
                    British roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 99 Sea Zone, round 4 : 3/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship in 99 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 battleship owned by the Italians and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in 99 Sea Zone
                British win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 28
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 2 submarines
                Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to Syria
            1 submarine moved from 38 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to West India
            2 armour moved from Persia to West India
            1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Syria
            2 fighters moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Holland Belgium to United Kingdom
            1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
            1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Tunisia to Tobruk
            1 armour moved from Morocco to Tunisia
            2 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
            3 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Turkmenistan to Kazakhstan
            1 armour moved from Turkmenistan to Samara
            1 infantry moved from Persia to Eastern Persia
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Iraq to Persia
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 80 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Turkmenistan to Eastern Persia
            1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 19 Sea Zone to Jehol
    
        Place Units - British
            1 submarine placed in 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter placed in United Kingdom
            1 armour and 1 fighter placed in Egypt
            1 mech_infantry placed in Persia
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 39 PUs; end with 39 PUs
            Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 42 PUs
    
        Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : -0,17
    Americans regular : -0,50
    Italians regular : -0,50
    Japanese regular : -0,33
    Germans regular : -0,83
    British regular : 0,33
    

    uk6 (2).tsvg

  • 2024 2023 '22 '15 '11 '10 Official Q&A Moderator

    What bothers me is that I’ve lost 3 transports in 19 that I didn’t see could be sunk. US bomber not so bad because I could get it right away, but the UK fighter was completely invisible to me. Probably instinct thought it was the Chinese fighter. Really hurts when you’re planning to use those transports the next turn.

    You got the extra sub you badly needed for 99 and paid a price for it, but below average dice kills another one of my fleets. I almost missed 2 air from 80, so at least the extra 2 cruisers were there, but you still slaughtered it.

    I don’t think it’s a good idea to point this out, but China can’t build units in Burma.
    From page 10 of the Pacific manual -
    “New Chinese units can be mobilized on any
    Chinese territory that is controlled by China, including
    those captured in the current turn.”
    and
    “However, Kwangtung and Burma are special cases. Although they are not Chinese territories, Chinese forces can move into them. These are the only non-Chinese territories that Chinese units can occupy. China can even temporarily control them, but only if it recaptures them from the Axis while India is under Axis control.”

    So China can mobilize on Chinese territory, but Burma is not a Chinese territory.

    But I don’t think I want you putting them anywhere else, so I hope you leave them there.

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