L21 playoff OOB jkeller(X) vs trulpen (L+43)

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    oh i just noticed russia is getting some objective money from africa lol. nice little quirk of this map

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    @jkeller 6 ipc a turn soon to be 9 thats quite a lot


  • @jkeller said in L21 playoff OOB jkeller(X) vs trulpen (L+43):

    oh i just noticed russia is getting some objective money from africa lol. nice little quirk of this map

    Yes, I tried to only strafe Iraq, but failed and also hoped to lose the inf in Italian Somalialand, but failed there as well. A bit risky if Moscow falls early.

    Scramble 3 fig to z92 where all the air attacks.

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    Game History

    Round: 6
    
        Research Technology - Germans
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 7 artilleries, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 bomber and 3 fighters moved from France to 92 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone
            7 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Italy to 92 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Rostov to Tambov
            1 armour moved from Bryansk to Samara
            1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Samara
            1 armour moved from Nenetsia to Urals
            1 mech_infantry moved from Nenetsia to Urals
            1 battleship moved from 112 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 112 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Vologda
            1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Volgograd
                  Germans take Volgograd from Russians
            5 infantry moved from Archangel to Vologda
    
        Combat - Germans
            British scrambles 3 units out of Gibraltar to defend against the attack in 92 Sea Zone
            Battle in 91 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 submarine
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 2 transports
                1 submarine owned by the Americans submerged
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer and 2 transports
            Battle in Vologda
                Germans attack with 6 infantry
                Russians defend with 2 infantry
                Germans win, taking Vologda from Russians with 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
            Battle in Samara
                Germans attack with 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Russians win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -10
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in Urals
                Germans attack with 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Urals from Russians with 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in 92 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 bombers, 10 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 4 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 4 fighters and 1 transport; French defend with 1 fighter
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                Germans win with 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 42
                Casualties for Germans: 9 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 4 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 4 fighters and 1 transport
                Casualties for French: 1 fighter
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 fighter moved from 92 Sea Zone to Southern France
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to Southern France
            1 artillery moved from Southern France to France
            1 infantry moved from Southern France to France
            1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
            1 destroyer moved from 115 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
            2 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
            3 armour moved from Bryansk to Volgograd
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Volgograd
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Caucasus
            2 armour moved from Bryansk to Caucasus
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Caucasus
            3 artilleries moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
            1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk
            4 artilleries moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 infantry moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 115 Sea Zone to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Novgorod
            1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Volgograd
            1 infantry moved from Rostov to Caucasus
    
        Place Units - Germans
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            1 fighter placed in Western Germany
            3 artilleries placed in Ukraine
            3 artilleries placed in Novgorod
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Bryansk: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Tambov: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,3,1,6
            Germans collect 56 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 56 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs
            Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 76 PUs
    
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    lone infantry again wins outright but I did do fine in sz92

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  • R6 L21 SF jkeller vs trulpen (+43) OOB.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 6

       Purchase Units - Russians
    
           Russians buy 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
    
    
       Combat Move - Russians
    
           1 infantry moved from Samara to Novosibirsk
    
           1 fighter moved from Russia to Novosibirsk
    
           1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
    
           1 armour moved from Tobruk to Libya
    
                 Russians take Libya from Italians
    
    
    
       Combat - Russians
    
           Battle in Novosibirsk
    
               Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
    
               Japanese defend with 1 armour
    
               Russians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
    
               Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
    
               Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour
    
    
    
       Non Combat Move - Russians
    
           1 fighter moved from Novosibirsk to Russia
    
           1 infantry moved from Russia to Samara
    
           1 mech_infantry moved from Ethiopia to Egypt
    
    
    
       Place Units - Russians
    
           10 infantry placed in Russia
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - Russians
    
           Russians collect 15 PUs; end with 16 PUs
    
           Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 9 PUs; end with 25 PUs
    
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    Game History

    Round: 6
    
        Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 4 artilleries, 1 carrier, 2 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
    
        Combat Move - Japanese
            3 infantry moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone
            3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to 20 Sea Zone
            4 infantry and 2 transports moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 battleships moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
                  Japanese take 6 Sea Zone from Americans
            2 cruisers moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
    
        Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Korea
                Japanese attack with 4 infantry
                Americans defend with 1 factory_minor, 9 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; ANZAC defend with 1 fighter; Russians defend with 2 aaGuns and 12 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships and 2 cruisers in Korea, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 4 infantry in Korea, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 2 aaGuns, 10 fighters, 14 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Korea, round 2 : 13/25 hits, 11.83 expected hits
                    4 infantry owned by the Japanese and 3 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Korea
                Americans win with 2 aaGuns, 10 fighters, 11 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for Japanese: 4 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Japanese
            2 fighters moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Kwangtung to Anhwe
            1 mech_infantry moved from Yunnan to Anhwe
            1 infantry moved from Kansu to Shensi
            1 artillery moved from Kansu to Shensi
            2 artilleries moved from Shensi to Kweichow
            1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
            1 aaGun moved from Yunnan to Shan State
            1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to 20 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to 19 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Japan
            3 infantry moved from Yunnan to Shan State
            4 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Japan
            1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Japan
            1 fighter moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Celebes to Kwangtung
            3 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            1 bomber moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Manchuria
            3 submarines moved from 19 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 19 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 19 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 19 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 19 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 19 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            3 carriers and 6 fighters moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to Japan
    
        Place Units - Japanese
            1 carrier and 2 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone
            4 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in Japan
    
        Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 60 PUs; end with 60 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : 1.17
    Japanese regular : -0.00
    

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    Game History

    Round: 6

       Purchase Units - Americans
    
           Americans buy 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 3 infantry, 5 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
    
    
       Combat Move - Americans
    
           1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 88 Sea Zone
    
           1 submarine moved from 25 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter moved from Midway to 16 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Korea to 16 Sea Zone
    
           8 fighters moved from Korea to Manchuria
    
           2 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
    
    
    
       Combat - Americans
    
           Battle in Manchuria
    
               Americans attack with 8 fighters and 2 infantry
    
               Japanese defend with 1 infantry
    
                   Americans roll dice for 8 fighters and 2 infantry in Manchuria, round 2 : 2/10 hits, 4,33 expected hits
    
                   Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Manchuria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
    
                   1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Manchuria
    
               Americans win, taking Manchuria from Japanese with 8 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
    
               Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
    
           Battle in 16 Sea Zone
    
               Americans attack with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
    
               Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
    
                   Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 16 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
    
                   Americans roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 16 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits
    
                   Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 16 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
    
                   1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 16 Sea Zone
    
               Americans win with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
    
               Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
    
    
    
       Non Combat Move - Americans
    
           2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 16 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
    
           1 battleship, 6 carriers, 2 cruisers, 6 destroyers, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 25 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
    
           1 carrier, 2 destroyers and 2 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western United States to Eastern United States
    
           3 submarines moved from 54 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
    
           1 bomber moved from Queensland to India
    
           8 fighters moved from Manchuria to Korea
    
    
    
       Place Units - Americans
    
           2 infantry placed in Korea
    
           1 destroyer placed in 6 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry placed in Central United States
    
           1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 5 submarines and 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - Americans
    
           Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
    
               Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,1,1,6,5,3,6,5,3,2,6,2,1,3,1,3,4,3,2,2,5
    
           Americans collect 56 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 57 PUs
    
           Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 67 PUs
    
           Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs
    
           Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs
    
    
    
       Purchase Units - Chinese
    
           Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
    
           Chinese buy 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
    
    
    
       Combat Move - Chinese
    
    
    
       Place Units - Chinese
    
           1 infantry placed in Manchuria
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - Chinese
    
           Chinese collect 3 PUs; end with 5 PUs
    
    
    
       Purchase Units - British
    
           British buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 2 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
    
    
       Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
    
           UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
    
    
       Combat Move - British
    
           1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from India to Burma
    
                 UK_Pacific take Burma from Japanese
    
           1 bomber moved from India to French Indo China
    
    
    
       Combat - British
    
           Strategic bombing raid in French Indo China
    
                   Japanese roll AA dice in French Indo China : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
    
               Bombing raid in French Indo China rolls: 7 and causes: 6 damage to unit: factory_minor
    
               Bombing raid in French Indo China causes 6 damage total. 
    
    
    
       Non Combat Move - British
    
           1 bomber moved from French Indo China to India
    
           3 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 17 infantry moved from India to Burma
    
           1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 3 transports moved from 81 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
    
           1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
    
           1 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Persia
    
           1 aaGun, 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 6 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Tobruk to Libya
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Gibraltar to Trans-Jordan
    
           2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
    
           2 fighters moved from Persia to 98 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern Persia to India
    
           1 fighter moved from Eastern Persia to Trans-Jordan
    
           1 fighter moved from Persia to Trans-Jordan
    
           1 fighter moved from Eastern Persia to Persia
    
           1 fighter moved from Eastern Persia to Persia
    
    
    
       Place Units - British
    
           1 carrier and 1 submarine placed in 98 Sea Zone
    
           1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Persia
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - British
    
           British collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs
    
    
    
       Place Units - UK_Pacific
    
           1 artillery placed in India
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
    
           UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs; end with 7 PUs
    
           Some Units in India change ownership: 1 artillery
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : -1,33

    Japanese regular : -0,67

    Japanese AA : -0,17

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    @jkeller oh jesus…still getting used to these rules i played revised for so long. forgot you could do this little trick to prevent transports for picking up guys in combat


  • Sorry, it’s evil.


  • And they also have to move in CM or stay put. Perhaps you prefer the latter anyway.


  • Not sure if they are considered to have moved during CM though if there’s a battle in z6 and they stay there, thus maybe even preventing loading during NCM. We have to mull this over.


  • From the G40-EU rules, p 22 (NCM):

    Transports can move to friendly coastal territories and load or offload cargo, unless they loaded, moved, offloaded, or were involved in combat during the Combat Move or Conduct Combat phase.

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    Seems kind of silly that a single 8ipc dd can prevent a huge 251 ipc fleet with supporting air from loading and unloading. I get it those are the rules of this game but doesn’t seem logical in any way


  • I agree, it’s rather silly.

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