L22 OOB ABH (X) vs WinterWarrior(A+40)



  • of course not…


  • @arthur-bomber-harris Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Turning off Edit Mode
            Americans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 6 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            Turning off Edit Mode
            2 fighters moved from Wake Island to 6 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
    
        Combat - Americans
            Battle in 6 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 transport
                Japanese defend with 1 submarine
                    Americans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 transport in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 6 Sea Zone
                Americans win, taking 6 Sea Zone from Japanese with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
            Battle in Korea
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Wake Island to Guam
            1 carrier, 2 fighters and 1 submarine moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 26 Sea Zone to Midway
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Brazil to 86 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 86 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
            1 transport moved from 89 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 91 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to United Kingdom
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 26 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Western United States
    
        Place Units - Americans
            2 infantry placed in Central United States
            4 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 transports placed in 10 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 55 PUs; end with 55 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 65 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 75 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : 1.50
    Japanese regular : -0.17
    

    US 2 Final.tsvg


  • @winterwarrior Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Chinese
            2 infantry moved from Shensi to Kweichow
            2 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
            1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
    
        Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Kweichow
                Chinese attack with 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Kweichow, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Kweichow, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kweichow
                Chinese win, taking Kweichow from Japanese with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Yunnan
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                Chinese win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
    
        Place Units - Chinese
            5 infantry placed in Szechwan
    
        Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 8 PUs; end with 9 PUs
            Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 15 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : 0.17
    Japanese regular : -0.33
    

    CHI 2 Final.tsvg



  • no scramble


  • @arthur-bomber-harris BRI - Indonesia Sea Battle OOL.tsvg Do you have any specific OOL for this battle? Asking for two hits.


  • tip the carrier. Lose the tac


  • lose the fighter now


  • That was another close one…


  • @arthur-bomber-harris Yes close but no cigar…
    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Turning off Edit Mode
            Americans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 6 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            Turning off Edit Mode
            2 fighters moved from Wake Island to 6 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
    
        Combat - Americans
            Battle in 6 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 transport
                Japanese defend with 1 submarine
                    Americans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 transport in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 6 Sea Zone
                Americans win, taking 6 Sea Zone from Japanese with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
            Battle in Korea
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Wake Island to Guam
            1 carrier, 2 fighters and 1 submarine moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 26 Sea Zone to Midway
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Brazil to 86 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 86 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
            1 transport moved from 89 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 91 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to United Kingdom
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 26 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Western United States
    
        Place Units - Americans
            2 infantry placed in Central United States
            4 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 transports placed in 10 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 55 PUs; end with 55 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 65 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 75 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Chinese
            2 infantry moved from Shensi to Kweichow
            2 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
            1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
    
        Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Kweichow
                Chinese attack with 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Kweichow, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Kweichow, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kweichow
                Chinese win, taking Kweichow from Japanese with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Yunnan
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                Chinese win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
    
        Place Units - Chinese
            5 infantry placed in Szechwan
    
        Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 8 PUs; end with 9 PUs
            Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 15 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 6 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy nothing; Remaining resources: 15 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Malta to 97 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Persia to 80 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 80 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 76 Sea Zone to British Somaliland
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Ethiopia
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Burma to 41 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in British Somaliland
                British attack with 2 infantry
                Italians defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 2 infantry in British Somaliland, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in British Somaliland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in British Somaliland
                British win, taking British Somaliland from Italians with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in 97 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                Italians defend with 1 submarine and 1 transport
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Italians lost in 97 Sea Zone
                    1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 97 Sea Zone
                British win, taking 97 Sea Zone from Italians with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 13
                Casualties for Italians: 1 submarine and 1 transport
            Battle in 41 Sea Zone
                British attack with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 carrier, 1 fighter, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport
                1 submarine owned by the Japanese submerged
                    British roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 41 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Japanese
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport in 41 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                    1 tactical_bomber owned by the Japanese, 1 tactical_bomber owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in 41 Sea Zone
                    British roll dice for 1 fighter in 41 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 transport in 41 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 fighter in 41 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 transport in 41 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Japanese and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in 41 Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 1 carrier and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -10
                Casualties for British: 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
            Battle in Ethiopia
                British attack with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Italians defend with 1 artillery
                    British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Ethiopia, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 artillery in Ethiopia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Italians lost in Ethiopia
                British win, taking Ethiopia from Italians with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            2 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo
            1 artillery moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 97 Sea Zone to Malta
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Malta
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 106 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 109 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Burma to India
            1 artillery moved from Burma to India
            3 aaGuns and 5 infantry moved from Burma to India
    
        Place Units - British
            3 submarines placed in 109 Sea Zone
            3 submarines placed in 71 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 36 PUs
    
        Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 37 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,2,5,1,3,1
            UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 21 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : 0.17
    Americans regular : 1.50
    Italians regular : -0.83
    Japanese regular : -1.00
    British regular : 1.50
    

    BRI 2- FINAL WW AH.tsvg


  • you do like those 20% chance battles…


  • @arthur-bomber-harris Sometimes I look at a situation and think to myself, I don’t think these odds will get any better.


  • It 2.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Politics - Italians
            Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            1 armour moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
                  Italians take Eastern Poland from Russians
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Italians
            Battle in 97 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 bomber and 2 fighters
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                    Italians roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 fighters in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 97 Sea Zone
                Italians win with 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
    
        Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
            2 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to Romania
            3 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
    
        Place Units - Italians
            1 infantry placed in Northern Italy
            1 fighter placed in Southern Italy
    
        Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 19 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Italians regular : -0.67
    British regular : -0.33
    

  • if you are always relying on 20% battles, the odds won’t get better…



  • Looks like a German bomber got accidentally deleted on G2. Any problem adding it back in to Rome?

    I don’t think it changes any of your moves.


  • @arthur-bomber-harris I don’t think it would substantially change any moves, but I think we should review the G2 Battle of Sea Zone 96. Your edits removed my cruiser added back the bomber that went to Malta by mistake, and also added a Fighter to Southern Italy that my cruiser shot down? Technically I don’t think you ever rolled to hit my cruiser with your bomber and my cruiser rolled a hit that should technically be carried over to one of the orginal 3 units if we roll your bomber now.

    I’m a little confused by the edits , did I capture the situation correctly?

    EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 96 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser
    EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Southern Italy: 1 bomber
    EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 96 Sea Zone: 1 tactical_bomber
    EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Southern Italy: 1 bomber
    EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Southern Italy: 1 bomber
    EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Southern Italy: 1 fighter


  • I have lost one German plane in this match, shot down by that British cruiser in the med. I switched it from a tac loss to a fighter plane, leaving me with 5 fighters, 4 tacs, and 2 bombers


  • I should have rolled the bomber on this forum using the forum’s dice server to make it easier to see what was going on.

    Instead, I pre-announced that next roll in malta was going to be the bomber’s roll in the Cruiser battle. Not the easiest to follow.

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