AA50 Rules Errata and Q+A

[Krieghund]

Yes, Panama is adjacent to Eastern US.  The territories on the map don’t correspond exactly to actual countries (obviously).  The territory called “Panama” includes most of Central America, including eastern Mexico.

[Omega]

Anyone can quickly reply to me if Surface ships (Cruiser, DD, CV and BB) are blocked by Submarine?

I mean, I know transport can go through SZ where they are SS, but can warships do so too?

Robert

[Battlingmaxo]

@Omega:

Anyone can quickly reply to me if Surface ships (Cruiser, DD, CV and BB) are blocked by Submarine?

I mean, I know transport can go through SZ where they are SS, but can warships do so too?

Robert

No they are not….I believe the converse is also true unless there is a defending dd in the sz

[Battlingmaxo]

@Krieghund:

Yes, your examples are correct.

Any time a territory changes hands, whether captured or liberated, any AA guns in that territory change ownership to the new owner of the territory.

There is only one exception.  The situation involves when your capital is held by the enemy and because of this and your ally captures one of your former territories from the enemy rather than liberating it.  When your capital is liberated, you get that territory back from your ally, but he/she gets to keep any AA guns in it.

Along a similar line…what happens with an IC territory liberated by an ally when the capital is held by the enemy?  If the UK liberates karelia while germany holds russia can the UK mobilize units in karelia?

[Panther]

@Battlingmaxo:

Along a similar line…what happens with an IC territory liberated by an ally when the capital is held by the enemy?  If the UK liberates karelia while germany holds russia can the UK mobilize units in karelia?

See page 20 of the rulebook:

If the original controller’s capital is in enemy hands at the end of the turn in which you would otherwise have liberated the territory,
you capture the territory, collect income from the newly captured territory, and use any industrial complex there.

Note that you cannot use industrial complexes that you captured this turn (p.22).

In other words: Yes UK can mobilize units in Karelia - not in the same turn it was captured - but in UK’s next turn.

HTH :-)

[Battlingmaxo]

couldnt remember and didnt have the rules nearby….thanks

[Battlingmaxo]

@P@nther:

@Battlingmaxo:

Along a similar line…what happens with an IC territory liberated by an ally when the capital is held by the enemy?  If the UK liberates karelia while germany holds russia can the UK mobilize units in karelia?

See page 20 of the rulebook:

If the original controller’s capital is in enemy hands at the end of the turn in which you would otherwise have liberated the territory,
you capture the territory, collect income from the newly captured territory, and use any industrial complex there.

Note that you cannot use industrial complexes that you captured this turn (p.22).

In other words: Yes UK can mobilize units in Karelia - not in the same turn it was captured - but in UK’s next turn.

HTH :-)

Along a similar line… does the liberating player get the ipc value of the territory(ies) as well

[Krieghund]

Yes.  The liberating power controls the territory for all purposes until the original controller’s capital is liberated.

[Battlingmaxo]

What happens if the territory in question has never been captured by the enemy, is empty and is then “occupied” by friendly units?  My thinking is the territory has to be captured then liberated by a friendly for it to be useful (assuming capital is in enemy hands)

[Krieghund]

Your thinking is correct.  The territory would remain under the control of its original owner under those circumstances.  You can’t take territory directly away from your ally under any circumstances.

[dondoolee]

Can paratroopers transport inf across sea?  In triplea they can not.

[axis_roll]

@dondoolee:

Can paratroopers transport inf across sea?  In triplea they can not.

Certainly, there is no sea zone restriction

[gamerman01]

I have a question about retreating loaded transports.  If the naval battle goes sour before the landing of troops, the attacking fleet must retreat.  Sometimes this means loaded transports with little or no protection left.  The beaten attacker has no other choice but to retreat one space from whence he came, right?  And then the 3 or 4 transports (hypothetical) loaded with 3-4 tanks and 3-4 men all get killed by one submarine or fighter plane during the next round?  Am I interpreting the rules correctly?  Just the risk you take when attacking boats and landing all in one move?

[Krieghund]

You’re interpreting the rules correctly.

[scampb]

I too have a transport question.  Japan has been conquered ( don’t ask, don’t ask  :-( ).  On the mainland adjacent to Japan is a Japanese tank.  Small US force in the SZ surrounding Japan.  I now need to come back with my Japanese fleet and retake Japan.  I want to bring a transport with one infantry to do an amphibious attack on Japan to try and liberate it.  Can my Japanse transport bridge the Japanese tank to Japan along with the one infantry it brought into the sea zone if the sea battle is won by Japan, as long as I declare that is my intent?  Or can the tank not bridge because the sz was hostile at the time the battle was declared?

Regards,
Captain Crunch

[Krieghund]

The tank can’t be loaded, as the sea zone is hostile during the Combat Movement phase.

[scampb]

@Krieghund:

The tank can’t be loaded, as the sea zone is hostile during the Combat Movement phase.

Damn, I concede! LOL

[dutchmand]

I want to clarify a few China questions:

1. If China goes first and liberates a territory, the US cannot land aircraft there on its Noncombat movement. Larry’s answer to Telamon’s letter seemed to indicate that one of the China advantages is being able to go first with one or the other (China and US). I’m not sure why this would matter if there wasn’t some advantage regarding aircraft landings (aside from the Chinese being able to place new units in territories liberated by the US).

2. Not being able to place Chinese in territories with three or more units. Is that Chinese units only or any Allied units. Example: 6 Soviet infantry in a territory at the end of a Chinese turn, eligible for Chinese mobilization or no?

[gamerman01]

I can answer question #2.  You only count Chinese units, and this includes the Flying Tigers.  Does not include industrial complexes (built by an Axis power).  So you can place 4 Chinese in a territory with 6 Soviet infantry.

[Krieghund]

@DutchmanD:

1. If China goes first and liberates a territory, the US cannot land aircraft there on its Noncombat movement. Larry’s answer to Telamon’s letter seemed to indicate that one of the China advantages is being able to go first with one or the other (China and US). I’m not sure why this would matter if there wasn’t some advantage regarding aircraft landings (aside from the Chinese being able to place new units in territories liberated by the US).

Any number of situations could exist in which it was advantageous for one country or the other to go first.  The best example that I can think of is for one side to “soften up” an Axis-held territory so that the other could take it.  It would depend on the relative composition of the forces involved, as well as the overall circumstances, as to the optimal order of execution of the battles.

Thanks for getting question 2, Gamerman01!