No way am I opening that can of worms again!!! :-)
I am very happy as is, just wanted a clarification.
Checklists for Dummies (AARHE 4.0)
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Gah!
I’m taking IL at his word. He told me “ask away… that’s what I’m here for” ;-)
So, sadly, I have to get ready for today’s game – starts at 1500L and must press out of here.
IL I’ll send you the checklist via e-mail because it went to 323KB and I can’t upload it anymore.
Thanks for all the Q&A!
More to follow.
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Where did you find all the 1939 rules? The ones I have doesn’t have all the phases and stages (e.g., defensive ground reinforcement,
pg 12 Under Non-Combat Move (I think was misplaced as the move is taken after enemy’s combat moves are declared not conducted)
Reinforcement
During your enemy’s turn (your passive turn), after all combat moves are declared you may declare Reinforcements.
This may not be performed during USSR player’s special opening turn.
Land or naval units may move to adjacent friendly territories or adjacent friendly sea zones. Units that
conducted combat this turn may not perform this.Defensive Air Support
During your enemies’ turn (your passive turn), after all combat moves are declared you may declare Defensive
Air Support. This may not be performed during USSR player’s special opening-turn.
Air units may move to adjacent friendly territories or any adjacent sea zones. DAS are declared after all
combat moves are declared and before resolving any combats. DAS does not interrupt naval movement.Their was a long post discussion that armor and planes could move two spaces but then enter on combat round two, but that was voted down.
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Yes right. Another idea under considerations was this:
all land units that move 2 spaces, but only use one movement point to get in combat can do one of two new things:
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make a breakthrough attack of one space providing they won the battle, only those land units with leftover MP and un allocated planes can perform this special attack.
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make a second move out of the territory they just attacked to protect them from counterattack.
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[1) make a breakthrough attack of one space providing they won the battle, only those land units with leftover MP and un allocated planes can perform this special attack.
- make a second move out of the territory they just attacked to protect them from counterattack.
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I really like this particularly #2. After a really bad dice roll(s) - depicting a stronger defense than planned or an attack gone bad - player’s are sometimes left with only a few pieces that will be sacrificed. But doesn’t the current rules allow a retreat which would make #2 mute?
- make a second move out of the territory they just attacked to protect them from counterattack.
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My last comments ended up under the quotes, re-posting to avoid confusion:
[1) make a breakthrough attack of one space providing they won the battle, only those land units with leftover MP and un allocated planes can perform this special attack.
- make a second move out of the territory they just attacked to protect them from counterattack.
/quote]
I really like this particularly #2. After a really bad dice roll(s) - depicting a stronger defense than planned or an attack gone bad - player’s are sometimes left with only a few pieces that will be sacrificed. But doesn’t the current rules allow a retreat which would make #2 mute?
- make a second move out of the territory they just attacked to protect them from counterattack.
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Yes the rules actually allow this anyway, but the way they are versed is not clear. I know it says “if the defender retreats in full the attacker must enter the vacated territory with at least 1 unit”…. but me and tekkyy had a long talk about this and i wanted to seek your council on the issue.
I don’t really like the idea of allocating 20 units to attack a territory over a 4-6 month period…and defeating the defender but the prize is secured by one unit?
Its not intuitive. I feel the units that expended their effort to move ( and have only one movement point anyway) should occupy the territory, but the units that had 2 movement spaces and only used one are at a loss and considering they are more mobile should elect to move out or gain one additional attack ( their choice).
I don’t know any aspect where they sent in 30 divisions to take a nation, and immediately pull out 29 divisions within days of conquest knowing very well the enemy is nearby with its own capabilities. It strikes me like a ‘raid’ rather than a campaign of conquest or liberation.
I prefer your way of explaining it.
Both of you will go on the document as full contributors for your efforts.
Id like you to make an outline of the NA’s so people can index the NA quickly and avoid reading the history lesson behind it. One sentence or two should suffice the explanation.
Im trying to get a hold of Tekkyy… he has been away and has to address some of these issues with us.
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oh no
I did very misleading typo“after all combat moves are declared”
should read
“after all non-combat moves are declared”only air units have the mobility to reinforced rapidly (before combat)
IL, recall land units’ ability to reinforce BEFORE combat led to legendary exploitation and complex rules after rules to fix
It sounds like tekkyy intended only air to reinforce combat not land or sea units, which are only limited to reinforcement to counter an opposing player’s non-combat move. Correct?
Would have liked to seen a land reinforcement during combat, even if on second turn. It would seam practical if you had just occupied a territory but had only a few units left after a bad roll, that was then exploited by your opponent.
Id like you to make an outline of the NA’s so people can index the NA quickly and avoid reading the history lesson behind it. One sentence or two should suffice the explanation.
Actually, this is already completed. I made up NA cards for each nation for use during our games. I eliminated the “historical” text so the NA would fit on the card an still be seen “by us older guys”. No problem putting it in a index format.
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oh then please post and we will add them to AARHE files section.
Good job!
Both of you are on contributors list and that will be updated.
On the other issue, I think we will have to look into defenders combat reinforcement, because it seems only like a free move to their advantage.
I prefer the idea on the other thread about units with 2 movement points, because its more realistic.
Also i like the idea of contested zones where both sides occupy the territory and combat is optional, but infantry cant leave unless a round of combat occurs, while 2 MP units can leave or enter to reinforce and still avoid combat.
This is a solution to too few territories on the map to maneuver.
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Here is an example of the National Advantages I made into player cards. I printed them (front and back) on heavy stock and cut them into player cards size. You may need to adjust the size of the table to have them print exactly even front and back depending on your computer, printer, etc. Unfortunately, I had to eliminate alot of the graphics due to upload size restrictions.
I summarized the history or background of each advantage into one or two sentences to have room on the size card. I can easily get rid of all history reference and do an index pretty quick.
Wanted you to see an example of the NA player aide before I started. If you want all the other national advantage cards as well, let me know.
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OMG these are incredible!!!
I Love them because thats something i wanted to do so each player can have them right in front of him during play, but also draw them randomly.
Thank you so much for your contribution.
The only improvement would be to have the national icon larger in the corner or in the background as a watermark. When i get a chance i will use your file to add them so its really easy to know if the card is German or American NA. The German watermark is from WW1 and is kinda small. WE will use the AARHE national icons so everything is consistent.
If you can finish the fronts of all 6 national advantages, ill get the backs and post.
Keep up the good work. Eventually this will be perfect.
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Here is Italy’s NA. I’ve taken all graphics off.
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Just do what you can a little each day. Also id make the paragraphs so the lines are justified equally rather than left justification.
so you got this:
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try to get this:
its easier to read and just takes a second to format.
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Actually, that’s how they are formatted on my end :? I’ll see what’s up.
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IL: Completed National Advantage Player Card Format - Germany
Here you go. The graphics have been removed and text formatted.
It only allows 3 posts??? Then the NAs will be sent over 6 posts
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Completed National Advantage Player Card Format - Italy
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Completed National Advantage Player Card Format - Russia
Russia back 2.doc
Soviet Union 1-9.doc
Soviet Union 10-18.doc -
Completed National Advantage Player Card Format - Japan
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Completed National Advantage Player Card Format - UK
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Completed National Advantage Player Card Format - US
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Stuck in Seattle for a couple days, so I didn’t see these until today. These are really a great addition! I was using chips with taped on numbers which was a pain – so this will be a serious upgrade, since the players won’t have to look them up. Very nice.
Thanks for the effort!
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