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tekkyy

G1/J1: Conduct Combat

team members cannot perform other phases until all members have completed Conduct Combat
air missions are resolved first though

but all air missions are resolved before normal combat, so SBR have to be resolved first

Bry: SBR
no guns, no defending air units so no aerial combat
bmb rolls straight away and rolls a 3
Bry’s income is reduced by 3 IPC but not below 0, so its income is 0 next turn

now all normal combat are resolved, the order being attacker’s choice

z13 1: opening-fire
0 destroyers, 1 submarine = 1 submarine gets first strike
rolls 1@2, gets 1 hit
defender bb damaged

z13 1: main-round
both attacker and defender rolls 1@4, both get 1 hit
defender bb destroyed
attacker bb damaged (no technology, only dd hits can be allocated on ss)

defender has no units left
attacker choose to retreat back to z14
(unlike land combat, attacker do not have to leave units after winning)

Len 1: opening-fire
attacker (3 ftr, no dogfight)
rolls 3@3, gets 2 hits
defender allocates 1 arm 1 inf
(air unit hits are allocated on inf last)
remove causalties

Len 1: main-round
attacker (5 inf, 1 arm with support)
rolls 5@1 1@4, gets 2 hits
defender allocates 2 inf

defender (5 inf left)
rolls 5@2, gets 2 hits
attacker allocates 2 inf

defender decides first, choose to retreat all 3 inf to Arc
attacker then decides, choose to remain with all units

tekkyy

Bry (6 inf 2 ftr vs 6 inf)
no hits in opening-fire
then in main-round attacker gets 3 hits, defender gets 3 hits
both lose 3 inf
defender retreats to Yak
attacker retreats to Bry, leaving 1 amphibious assault inf behind

z35 (3 ftr 1 cv 1 bb vs 1 ftr 1 cv 1 dd 1 tp)
Opening-fire
attacker Anti-Air = 1(cv) + 2(bb) = 3 dice @ 1
defender Anti-Air = 1(cv) + 1(dd) = 2 dice @ 1
attacker gets 1 hit, defender gets 0 hits
defender loses 1 ftr

Main-round
Air Units: defender has no air units left, no need to roll dogfight dice
Naval Units:
attacker (1 cv 1 bb), rolls 1@1 1@4
gets 1 hit
defender (1 cv 1 dd 1 tp), rolls 1@1 1@2 1@0
gets 1 hit

attacker bb damaged
defender cv damaged (note hits must be allocated on transport last)

defender retreats remaining cv + dd + tp to z36
attacker remains but retreats 1 ftr (must retreat ftr excess to carrier capacity at end of combat cycle)

z52 (1 ftr 1 cv 1 dd 1 bb 1 ss vs 1 ftr 1 cv 1 ss)
note defender had the declare DAS during combat move to relocate the ftr at z52 or Haw if they wished)

Opening-fire
Anti-Air
lets say no hits

Submarine First Strike
attacker ss gets first strike
defender ss has no first strike due to dd
attacker targets cv (subarmines can’t hit submarines nor air units)
rolls 1@2, get 1 hit
defender cv damaged

Main-round
Air Units (ftr vs ftr)
attacker rolls 1@2 defender rolls 1@3
lets both hit and destroyed

Naval Units (1 bb 1 cv 1 dd vs 1 cv 1 ss)
(attacker ss alerady fired in opening-fire)
lets say attacking dd hit, defending ss hits

attacker bb damaged
defender allocates ss (to save the damaged cv, note only destroyer hits can be allocated on submarines, but destroyer hits can be allocated on other naval units too)

defender retreats to z55
attacker retreats to z45 (attacker can retreat to any sz from which at least one unit came from)

tekkyy

all combats now resolved
team members now perform remaining game phases at the same time at their own rate

J1: Non-combat Move
1 ftr 1 bmb from Bry to Man
1 ftr from Bry to Kwa
ftr from z35 to Fic

G1: Non-combat Move
3 ftr from Len to Ukr
all other ftr to Ukr
2 inf 1 arm from Blk to Ukr
2 arm from Ger to Ukr

1 inf from Ger to Ukr via bmb (bmb may carry 1 inf in NCM)
bmb from Ger to Ukr to Ger (Air Transport bmb, unlike transport, may continue movement after unload)
1 inf from Ger to Weu

inf and arm from Seu to Lib
inf and art from Alg to Lib

Allies: Reinforcement
after all non-combat moves are declared, enemy may declare reinforcements
units that did not combat this turn may relocate one space

UK: tp + ss from z40 to z39
UK: inf from Saf to Ken
US: 2 inf from Sin to Chi
US: 2 inf form Cus to Eus
US: dd from z20 to z19
J1: Mobilize
2 tp 1 dd @ z60
1 art @ Jpn

G1: Mobilize
3 inf @ Ukr
2 inf @ Bel
3 arm @ Ger
1 inf 1 arm @ Seu

G1: Develop Weapons
none

J1: Develope Weapons
none

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Bierwagen

Thanks Tekkyy – this is helping. Would like to see some CA and DAS if you can work it in. Maybe some messy SBR out of UK -> France with ID & DAS FTRs scrambling for a massive air battle.

The Paratroop was good, I’d forgotten about that when you have BMRs lying around. So many new rules to remember.

Appreciate the effort.

tekkyy

actually Air Missions are resolved before normal combat (like in OOB SBR is resolved before normal combat)
and DAS doesn’t not defend against them
so no big massive air battle in your example

anyway I just noticed IL have a very different interpretation of air missions (SBR, CA, and GI) and find it fits in with normal combat and DAS
I’ll wait til that is resolved before giving you example
maybe we can work together and make it streamline

(FYI I actually preferred LITE to be simple and not have to deal with air missions, but maybe it can be improved to be easier)

Bierwagen

Interesting & touche’. I’d not read the rules close enough.

I had the impression that if UK decided to do a SBR into Western Europe with say 2 BOM and a 5 FTR escort that Germany could respond with whatever was in Western Europe and send additional DAS (n.b., 1 round only) from Germany and Southern Europe in an attempt to shoot it down before it performed SBR.

I envisioned these huge air battles over the skies of Europe.

So, the only thing that defends against SBR is the country’s ID and whatever air units it has there.

Thanks for setting me straight.

Imperious Leader

Yes correct, on SBR you only consider the enemy planes that are actually in the territory… SBR represents bombing campaign, while DAS is modeling a longer campaign where planes are fighting over months in the sky over the battlefield until a decision is reached. SBR is a in/out attack…

tekkyy

@Bierwagen:

Interesting & touche’. I’d not read the rules close enough.

oh, no I did not intend to have that tone…

as for missing that bit, what made you miss it?
maybe we can change the sentences a bit

@Imperious:

SBR is a in/out attack….

yep all air missions are in/out style attacks
DAS only lets defends against normal combat, which represents months of action

Bierwagen

Nah, no tone taken or implied – I just didn’t remember the rules. There are a lot of moving parts to remember and I’m an old OOB guy. So, I’m on a steep learning curve.

“Air missions are resolved before normal combats
and DAS (Defensive Air Support) units do not defend
against them…”

Is pretty clear. I just WANTED DAS to be able to scramble. You know the old movies where the sirens go off and the guys go running to their airplanes.

From a tactical/strategic standpoint, I was hoping it would make Germany pull back some units from the Russian front to deal with an air war and SBRs.

Hoping to get to try it out again soon. The more we play OTB the more questions we have and the more the rules sink in.

Enjoy the day!

Bierwagen

Imperious Leader

Yea and post those pictures. I just like to see how your map came out and the pieces you use.

Bierwagen

Greetings from sunny Las Vegas – where it’s a cool DRY 110 degrees in the shade… phew!

I’ve been on the road a lot recently, but this time I got lucky and due to the duration of the trip I got to drive. So, I threw all my freshly minted AARHE material and “The War Game” in the trunk and have set up shop. Four of the folk from our monthly San Antonio gang are deployed here as well for two weeks. So, as soon as they’ve run out of money on the “Strip” – we’re going to hunker down and grind out a few games. Hope you all are available for more questions.

I’m sure between the 4 of us we should have a cell phone with camera in it. I’ve mostly modelled my custom set after IL pieces (see below) and have found all but the Japanese 1/72 figures. So, I had to paint them from the “Out of Box” set. The Americans are just coming off the painting assembly line – and the troops are looking quite spectacular set up on my version of ILs AARHE 4.0 hack job of 50" x 33" board (n.b., I didn’t print it on one sheet of banner paper but piecemealed it together). Sadly, the dry heat of the desert here warped one of framing boards so that’ll have to be replaced.

I ordered the CnC “Axis & Allies” armor special, and mounted some bombers like Satchel did for his folding table. I really like that idea. Along with the magnitized score board and mini flags. I’m still trying to figure out how he managed to get the planes to stick on the magnets glued to the carrier decks – I haven’t solved that riddle yet. Very clever.

So, the next purchase will be custom artillery, airplanes, and fleets. Anyone have any pointers for 1/600th decals? I’ve dead ended. Do you just make them yourself?

Thanks to all for the rules, ideas, maps, Q&A sessions, and general passion for the game. I’m enjoying the hell out of it again after a 17 year hiatus.

Keep you posted, and will hopefully will get some picures uploaded before the first turn.

Enjoy the day!

Bierwagen in Las Vegas

ESCI 207 - British 8th Army
ESCI 203 - Russian Soldiers
Revell 02503 - US Infantry
Airfix 01705 - German Infantry
Airfix 01711 - Afrika Korps

If anyone knows where I can find some quality Japanese – Airfix ones really stink – I’d be most appreciative.

Imperious Leader

I have done that same things as you. I have hundreds of useless 1/72 infantry to prove it.

if your going the 1/72 road… toysoldierreview.com will have pictures of all these and i sugest you use these:

I have all these and they were chosen because they don’t fall over in play because in every case the base is larger to give the piece stability.

for Artillery and all the rest you will have to carefully make a list and shop www.stytrex.com. If you email them and ask them nicely you can find out how much you need to order to get free shipping. I have placed 4 orders and each time got it after i asked.

If you need help let me know. I have made many mistakes and have only experience by trial and error to guide me to better decisions.

If you wanted to do it right you get one pack each from old glory miniatures at $13.00 each for (50) units and buy a specific round washer found easily at hardware store and glue the base on and paint. It will really kick ass, but you invest 13x5 which is $65 bucks for infantry only… it can be a pricey road, but these pieces will form a universal set for all your games.

Bierwagen

@Imperious:

I have all these and they were chosen because they don’t fall over in play because in every case the base is larger to give the piece stability.

Yeah, this is a problem. I was already thinking of putting them all on a common base. Maybe some of those counters from EAI Education and then use ground covering of each country to make them distinguishable from each other. I tried to paint mine with realistic WWII uniforms, which tend to blend together a bit on the board. So, colored bases might due the trick.

for Artillery and all the rest you will have to carefully make a list and shop www.stytrex.com. If you email them and ask them nicely you can find out how much you need to order to get free shipping. I have placed 4 orders and each time got it after i asked.

Thanks. Great insight. They will be my next stop.

If you wanted to do it right you get one pack each from old glory miniatures at $13.00 each for (50) units and buy a specific round washer found easily at hardware store and glue the base on and paint. It will really kick a**, but you invest 13x5 which is $65 bucks for infantry only… it can be a pricey road, but these pieces will form a universal set for all your games.

WoW! Wish I had found this prior to investing in Revell, ESCI, and Airfix. I love the metal figures – they will indeed kick butt! The plastic sets are $11+ each, so for a few extra bucks would be well spent. Though isn’t 15mm a bit too small? I thought 1/72 = 25mm+. Sadly, the 25mm ones don’t come 50 to a pack.

O.k. so next I’ll attempt to post a few photos – the cell phone only went so far but came out pretty well. You can see on the close ups how I overlapped the sheets to create the map. Then I glued it to the hardboard and finally covered it all in clear contact paper. This is the poor mans version of “how to make a nice custom board”.

Enjoy the day!

Bierwagen

Bierwagen

A bit grainy. Apparently I can only post 1 picture < 256K so I’ll try to get ther other 5 up.

Bierwagen

Bierwagen

A good look over the shoulder as Germany gears up for war. I tried to do the detailing on German armor (e.g., mud on the flaps and rusted exhaust) but decided it wasn’ worth the effort. I realize now I was smoking crack or something when I painted the German army. They had green tops and grey pants… this must be the division they raised out of Poland ;-)

Bierwagen

Bierwagen

A nice view out of Africa with Afrika Korp vs. 8th Army. You can see the bombers on the stands – a nice touch thanks to Satchel. I’m thinking to mount the airplanes as well on a slightly lower stand.

Super easy, but I’m having some difficulty keeping them glued to the nail heads. Time to switch to epoxy.

Bierwagen

Bierwagen

High level shot to show the size and framing. It came out a bit smaller than I’d hoped because of the overlap scheme used in MS Publisher – but the sweet thing is that it fits in the back of my Toyota Corolla with the seat down.

Bierwagen

Bierwagen

Final shot. I’ll work on some better photos when I get back home.

Enjoy!

Bierwagen

Imperious Leader

Hey those kick ass!

Maybe some of those counters from EAI Education

I bought a bunch of stuff from them. The colored disks are too large for bases. They are somewhat decent to make thicker nation control icons. The disk measures about 1/8 inch wider than the national tokens, and they are flexible and made from semi soft plastic. The dice are perfect and i love green, blue, and red and white dice rather than black dice.

I like the way you painted the germans.

By the way where do you buy the black base you use for your bombers? where is the link?

Imperious Leader

don’t buy 25 mm…They are huge…

15 mm is perfect. Trust me on this one. I have loads of them mounted to 1/2 inch metal squares that i bought from www.wargameaccessories.com (about 4 bucks a bag of 40)

buy only advancing or marching basic sets… they have a perfect center of gravity. If you buy the firing ones they are somewhat less balanced and look less professional.

eventually you will become less than pleased and at that time i will prepare a basic order for you so everything is perfect.

Now for fighters you need a few packs from tumbling dice/vapor trails 1/700 scale miniatures… these are from brookhurst hobbies and you should call ahead to know how many you need to buy to get a discount. Then you will have proper me-109, fw-190, and some me-262 for jets. All these planes come 6 in a bag for about 4 bucks each and are AA scale.

The bombers come 3 in a bag and sometimes even 2 for heavy bombers

Also, skytrex does have v-1 rockets but let me know latter when your ready to get them. Painted up, these will kick ass. I plan on posting my master set as soon as its ready and i got a bunch of V-1’s

I even got Zeppelins.

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