BM 3.0 DeadTom (axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies)

[Amon-Sul]

but the cruiser died

so it means my transports are dead?

[DeadTom]

The rulebook says that combat ends when all units that can attack or retreat on one or both sides have been destroyed or the attacker retreats. There is also a provision for ending the battle if neither side can fire on the other. None of these conditions were met, therefore combat continues until they are. You have the option of retreating.

[DeadTom]

I will allow an edit of the turn where you only attack with the fighters and move the transports and carriers in during non-com. You would also have to edit UK’s non-com of an infantry and AA gun to Gibraltar since it is still a hostile territory.

[Amon-Sul]

but i can still attack that sz with uk with a destroyer.

i ve destroyed ur cruiser with my air

i move ACs there in ncm.

and i ve destroyed ur sub with uk des

[Amon-Sul]

ok, its the same what u wrote, sorry.

ok , sorry for all this, pretty big set back for me, but i ve learned my lesson with the rules  :lol:

[Amon-Sul]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3 with Combat Move First, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 4

Politics - Italians

Combat Move - Italians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Gibraltar: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Gibraltar: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Gibraltar from British to Germans
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Gibraltar: 1 armour and 2 fighters
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Morocco from Americans to Italians
            EDIT: Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to United Kingdom: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            EDIT: 5 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
            EDIT: Italians undo move 1.
            EDIT: 5 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 88 Sea Zone
            EDIT: 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to British Guiana
            EDIT: 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Gibraltar to British Guiana
            EDIT: Italians undo move 3.
            EDIT: Italians undo move 2.
            EDIT: 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Gibraltar to British Guiana
            EDIT: 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to British Guiana
            EDIT: 1 infantry moved from British Guiana to Brazil
            EDIT: Italians undo move 2.
            EDIT: 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Gibraltar to British Guiana
            EDIT: Italians undo move 4.
            EDIT: 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Gibraltar to British Guiana
            EDIT: Italians undo move 2.
            EDIT: 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            EDIT: 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to British Guiana

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[DeadTom]

@Amon-Sul:

ok, its the same what u wrote, sorry.

ok , sorry for all this, pretty big set back for me, but i ve learned my lesson with the rules   :lol:

Next time just buy a destroyer  :-P I’ll play in a few hours.

[DeadTom]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3 with Combat Move First, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 4

Politics - Italians

Combat Move - Italians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Gibraltar: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Gibraltar: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Gibraltar from British to Germans
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Gibraltar: 1 armour and 2 fighters
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Morocco from Americans to Italians
            EDIT: Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to United Kingdom: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            EDIT: 5 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
            EDIT: Italians undo move 1.
            EDIT: 5 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 88 Sea Zone
            EDIT: 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to British Guiana
            EDIT: 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Gibraltar to British Guiana
            EDIT: Italians undo move 3.
            EDIT: Italians undo move 2.
            EDIT: 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Gibraltar to British Guiana
            EDIT: 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to British Guiana
            EDIT: 1 infantry moved from British Guiana to Brazil
            EDIT: Italians undo move 2.
            EDIT: 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Gibraltar to British Guiana
            EDIT: Italians undo move 4.
            EDIT: 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Gibraltar to British Guiana
            EDIT: Italians undo move 2.
            EDIT: 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            EDIT: 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to British Guiana
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
            1 bomber moved from Greece to Alexandria
            1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
                  Italians take Western Ukraine from Russians

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 fighter and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - Italians
            Italians creates battle in territory 97 Sea Zone
            Battle in Alexandria
                Italians attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                British defend with 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Alexandria, round 2 :  3/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Alexandria, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Alexandria
                Italians win, taking 97 Sea Zone from British, taking Alexandria from British with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 bomber moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
            1 armour moved from Tunisia to Tobruk
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
            2 aaGuns moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
            2 transports moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            EDIT: 2 artilleries moved from Northern Italy to Syria
            EDIT: 6 infantry moved from Albania to Syria
            1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland

Place Units - Italians
            1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Southern Italy
            6 infantry placed in Northern Italy
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Eastern Poland: 2 aaGuns
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Belarus: 2 aaGuns
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 20 PUs; end with 20 PUs
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 25 PUs
            Objective Italians 3 North Africa Control: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 30 PUs
            Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 35 PUs

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[DeadTom]

For some unknown reason, TripleA wouldn’t let me load and unload from some of my transports. I made an edit to do my move. I assume it’s a bug, because I can’t see why the use of transports would be restricted there.

[Amon-Sul]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3 with Combat Move First, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 4

Combat Move - ANZAC

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 cruiser, 4 destroyers and 2 submarines moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
            1 infantry placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 16 PUs

Combat Move - French

Non Combat Move - French
            1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt

Turn Complete - French

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[Amon-Sul]

now i see ur figs from gibraltar can attack my transports in guiana. can i redo my ncm with usa?

i made a mistake because when i moved those transports there was no german units in gibraltar and moroco , so it confused me.

[Amon-Sul]

refresh

[DeadTom]

@Amon-Sul:

now i see ur figs from gibraltar can attack my transports in guiana. can i redo my ncm with usa?

i made a mistake because when i moved those transports there was no german units in gibraltar and moroco , so it confused me.

Sure, where do you want them?

[Amon-Sul]

Well, acording to the rules, since i withdrew from sz 91 battle, i must withdraw with all my sea units, not just transports.

so my entire navy (2 ACs, 3 usa figs) + 1 uk fig go to sz 88

[Amon-Sul]

no, wait , accordin to rules i can not withdraw with those 3 figs since they already spent their 5 movement.

so it means they are dead  :cry:

[Amon-Sul]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3 with Combat Move First, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 5

Research Technology - Germans

Politics - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Move - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 91 Sea Zone: 3 fighters
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            EDIT: 2 carriers moved from 91 Sea Zone to 88 Sea Zone
            EDIT: 1 fighter moved from 91 Sea Zone to 88 Sea Zone

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[DeadTom]

@Amon-Sul:

no, wait , accordin to rules i can not withdraw with those 3 figs since they already spent their 5 movement.

so it means they are dead  :cry:

My suggestion was to deem the battle to have only involved the fighters and non-com the transports and carriers to 91. I see no reason why you should be punished for misunderstanding the rules. So, everything gets moved to 91 and the fighters remain. Does this sound acceptable?

[Amon-Sul]

@DeadTom:

@Amon-Sul:

no, wait , accordin to rules i can not withdraw with those 3 figs since they already spent their 5 movement.

so it means they are dead  :cry:

My suggestion was to deem the battle to have only involved the fighters and non-com the transports and carriers to 91. I see no reason why you should be punished for misunderstanding the rules. So, everything gets moved to 91 and the fighters remain. Does this sound acceptable?

yes. thank U. can U please do all the edits on Ur next turn?

cheers :)

[DeadTom]

Ok, I’ll play later today.

[Amon-Sul]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3 with Combat Move First, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 5

Research Technology - Germans

Politics - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Move - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 91 Sea Zone: 3 fighters
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 91 Sea Zone: 2 carriers
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 88 Sea Zone: 2 carriers and 3 fighters
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            EDIT: 2 carriers moved from 91 Sea Zone to 88 Sea Zone
            EDIT: 1 fighter moved from 91 Sea Zone to 88 Sea Zone
            EDIT: Germans undo move 2.
            EDIT: Germans undo move 1.
            EDIT: 1 fighter moved from 91 Sea Zone to 88 Sea Zone

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