Defensive Fire Timing…....Can This be Right?

The years are all wrong on those, unless you mean the post invasion Polish forces.  The western Allies had Polish units.  And Russians put togtehr Polish units from the captured territirie to fight the Germans too.

If you are doing Invasion of Poland-era, then stick to 1939.

For the Luksusowa scenario, I did research to see what units the Poles actually fielded.  These are limited to 1939:

Bofors You can even find pictures of Polish-manned Bofor guns on the web

Renault R-35 The Polish government tried to purchase Somoa’s (considered to be the best tank of the era) from the French, but ended up purchasing Renaults.

Bren Machine Gunner  Polish light armour, what they had, were often equipped with BRENs.

Bold Captain 1939 Commander…and he’s defense-oriented.

Bohler 47mm Antitank Gun 1939-era anti-tank gun.

Check out the full scenario here:

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=11831.0

@Audacity:

The scenario.  An infantry soldier is in a town hex and a vehicle crosses the open ground and enters the same hex.  The soldier is entitled to defensive fire.

The rule states the defensive fire effects (ie which hex it occurs)  is determined by the defender.  In this case that means the defender says if the effect take place in the open ground hex or if it happens in the town hex.

Question.  If the defender awaits until the vehicle has entered the town hex, can he use his abilities to attack vehicles in his own hex with the far superior dice rolls or is Defensive fire only about direct fire

Yes. You get to chose where the defencive-fire occurs, and if you have any special abilities such as flamethrower or close assault you can use them. Only a few abilities are worded such that they can’t be used for defencive-fire (eg the Goliath’s ). So if your unit is, for example, simply a regular infantry it will probably be best to make the defencive-fire attack in the same hex where it can use its close assault.

@FranceTanks:

Could this be the end? This army seems indestructable. I cannot beat it.

Veteran Tiger - 65
4 SS Panzergrenadier - 20
Haupsterfuher - 7
Grizzled Veteran - 8

100 Pts.

I beat an army very similar to this except that there was no Grizzled Vet and the other guy had a sniper…and the builds were slightly larger.
Go w/ what Der Lieter said and avoid vehicles. My build was an all airbore one…British.
Try this:
Defiant Paratrooper x 10 = 80 pts
Inspiring Hero x 1 = 9 pts
Veteran SMLE Riflemen x 2 = 10 pts (remember these guys have steely resolve)
Total = 99 pts

Paras and Aussies should be able to toast the few infantry there. Protect the hero so that he can give you speed to trap and kill the tank. You should be able to keep it at least disrupted once you trap it.

Buying by case is a very good idea if you can afford; WotC seeds by case. You aren’t guaranteed you’ll have perfect distribution but out of the last dozen cases I’ve seen only two had less than optimal distribution, and even then it wasn’t terrible.

The other major thing about being seeded by case is you occasionally find errors; I had a Pershing that came with a Chi-Ro card, and a Chi-Ro that came with the Pershing card in the same case, but different boosters.  Again this isn’t the norm, but it does happen.

I’ve found with cases you generally get 12/15 of the rares, though sometimes a double sneaks in, 2-3 of each uncommon, and 4 of every common. I don’t know if this holds true for Set I as I bought it buy case (hence over a platoon of Tigers, but only a single Panzer II :()

As for the cost it all depends where/how you get it. Some decent deals can be found online, just as long as you make sure they don’t gouge you on shipping. If buying at the FLGS it somewhat depends on just how far you are away from the closest major city…  around where I am they cost up to 165$  :x, but once you get into Toronto it drops substantially. I’d say about CD$ 125+Shipping is the range you want to look for… I wouldn’t go for too much more than 150 total.

Currently there is nothing that can benefit from the SS-HSF having a face-up disrupted counter between the casualty phase and the beginning of the SS-HSF player’s movement phase, so it doesn’t matter as much as the SS-HSF ignores it so can defencive-fire, etc, still.

However, I usually leave it on anyway then remove it at the beginning of my movement phase like your supposed to since that is the rule; and who knows in future sets there might be something that can effect it.

And really, it’s not like it’s a lot of effort either way.

right you are

@General:

But you must remember the hexes are 100 meters from side to side, so even if an infantry squad approaches a tank “from the front” there is a lot of room to maneuver in the hex itself, so your infantry can ostensibly be approaching from the side, around trees and hills, in the FOG OF WAR as bullets are flying and the tank is preoccupied with other things.

Which is the point I was about to make. I’d also like to add to it that though the hex might be a clear, grassy field as far as game mechanics, you gotta keep in mind that the grass is usually very high, has some scrub and trees scattered about, rocks, gullies, maybe even a cottage or two… they’re not flat and empty. So at 100 meters and having some clutter (but not enough to warrant making cover rolls) and such it isn’t unrealistic for infantry to be able to avoid defensive fire from a tank. It’s only when the infantry gets close to the tank (ie: in combat) that the tanks machine guns defend it. Otherwise the infantry isn’t visible to the tank regardless of how many peepholes it has.

-=Grim=-

Here is the rule as reinforced by Avalon Hill.

The Tiger immediately disrupts a soldier unit upon entering the hex (face-up counter).  This happens before defensive force occurs in that hex.  Units with face-up disrupted counters cannot perform defensive fire.

So, in order to stop the Tiger tank from using its special ability (remember- special abilities trump the rules, as explained at the back of the starter set rule book), a soldier unit must employ its defensive fire while the Tiger is in the adjacent hex.  Most soldier units don’t have enough attack dice to equal the Tiger’s frontal defense of 7, so the Tiger will have no problem moving into the hex.