(Anniversary-1941) Chicago rules - Tech via a Point System

Axis & Allies and Zombies setup for Axis & Allies 1941

This house rule adapts the initial setup of the zombie version to 1941. Plus: You can now buy artillery, worth 4IPCs. And, the two new industrial complexes can place units following the normal 1941 rules.

Soviet Union - 7 IPCs

Russia: 5 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 tank, 1 fighter, 1 Industrial complex Archangel: 3 infantry Karelia: 2 infantry, 1 artillery Caucasus: 3 infantry, 1 tank, 1 Industrial complex Urals: 2 infantry Siberia: 2 infantry, 1 artillery SZ 4: 1 submarine

Germany - 12 IPCs

Germany: 4 infantry, 2 tanks, 1 fighter, 1 bomber, 1 Industrial complex Western Europe: 3 infantry, 2 tanks, 1 fighter Southern Europe: 3 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 Industrial complex Eastern Europe: 5 infantry, 2 tanks, 1 artillery Norway/Finland: 2 infantry Ukraine: 3 infantry, 1 tank West Russia: 1 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 tank North Africa: 2 tanks SZ 5: 1 battlesihp SZ 6: 1 submarine SZ 9: 1 submarine SZ 15: 1 submarine SZ 16: 1 destroyer, 1 submarine, 1 transport

UK - 12 IPCs

United Kingdom: 1 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 bomber, 1 Industrial complex Anglo-Egypt Sudan: 2 infantry, 1 tank French West Africa: 1 infantry Union of South Africa: 1 infantry, 1 artillery (we recomend to add 1 Industrial complex) India: 1 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 Industrial complex Australia: 1 infantry, 1 tank, 1 Industrial complex Borneo: 1 infantry Eastern Canada: 1 tank Western Canada: 1 infantry Gibraltar: 1 fighter SZ 8: 1 battleship, 1 destroyer SZ 10: 1 destroyer, 1 transport SZ 14: 1 destroyer, 1 transport SZ 29: 1 destroyer, 1 transport SZ 33: 1 destroyer, submarine, 1 transport

Japan - 9 IPCs

Japan: 4 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 tank, 1 fighter, 1 bomber, 1 Industrial complex Manchuria: 2 infantry, 1 artillery Coastal China: 2 infantry Southeast Asia: 1 infantry, 1 artillery Caroline Islands: 1 infantry SZ 31: 1 destroyer, 1 submarine SZ 45: 1 battleship, 1 aircraft carrier, 2 fighters, 1 destroyer, 2 transports SZ 46: 1 aircraft carrier, 1 fighter, 1 destroyer, 1 transport

USA - 17 IPCs

Eastern US: 2 infantry, 1 tank, 1 fighter, 1 bomber, 1 Industrial complex Western US: 2 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 Industrial complex Brazil: 1 infantry Alaska: 1 infantry Hawaiian Islands: 1 infantry Philippine Islands: 1 infantry Northwestern China: 1 infantry Szechwan: 2 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 Industrial complex SZ 11: 1 destroyer, 1 transport SZ 37: 1 submarine SZ 40: 1 battleship SZ 42: 1 aircraft carrier, 2 fighters, 1 destroyer, 1 transport

ATT: Santa Bárbara Historical Play Group

@Argothair said in Alternate dice rules:

It’s a hard problem. …
If you let players use LL when they really care about the battle, and force them to roll regular dice the rest of the time, then that keeps the game moving at a reasonable speed without leaving you feeling like you lost the whole game because the dice went against you in one crucial battle.

Sure, if you save one of your precious 3 LL dice chips for that key battle, you might not have such remorse.

Also, what if the game goes 15 rounds? Is 3 really enough? Perhaps start with 3 and get an additional LL battle every 3rd round?

Allot comes down to a players level of comfort when allowing randomness into the game. Some players love the gamble, the long shot, the chance that we might still have a shot to win with some luck on our side in this last ditch effort.

Other players might become dismayed when the above scenario happens to them after all their well executed plans have them at a 99% chance of winning and feel that the dice has stolen their victory.

This is a grey area, there is no right or wrong when it comes to what is the proper level of randomness in a game of A&A?

WT :-o :-o      ATTACK!  ATTACK!  ATTACK!  :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

@knp7765:

That is a good idea about limiting the Japanese Kamikaze use until they are kind of pounded down to a low income. The Kamikaze was a weapon born out of desperation after all.

Yes, and in addition to the pressure of Japan being in such a desperate situation, there was another related factor at play: the more the war progressed, the fewer top-notch pilots Japan had at its disposal.  Japan’s training philosophy prior to the war had produced an elite corps of pilots, which gave Japan an initial advantage but left it in a worsening position as the years went by and their casualties mounted.  The US Navy, by contrast, figured out that training large numbers of competent pilots was a better investment than training a small number of superb ones (especially since the US could produce enough aircraft to take advantage of its abundant pilot supply).  When Japan’s situation became dire enough in late 1944 for it to consider extraordinary measures such as kamikaze tactics, one element which worked in favour of the kamizaze concept was that it required very little pilot training: the pilots basically just had to learn how to take off, how to fly to their targets and how to go into a steep dive.  This kind of rudimentary flight instruction was the opposite of the elite-oriented training philosophy Japan had followed prior to the war, so it would make sense to have a rule saying that Japan can only make kamikaze attacks late in the game once Japan is on the ropes.  Maybe this could even be seen as a kind of tech – a capability which isn’t available at the start of the game, but which becomes available later when certain conditions are met.  With a normal tech, you need to invest money to gain the new capability; in this case, kamikaze attacks (a kind of reverse tech because it reflects a training downdgrade) would become available when Japan’s economic and strategic situation drops below a certain threshold.

Axis and Allies D12 system rules:
The purpose of this is to integrate the new pieces from HBG as well as new sculpts from AA41 and AA42.2.  The goal is to fit all the pieces creating unique values into Axis and Allies games.
I had considered using different unit values by nation, but this proved too difficult. The utility of using D12 allows many new units each having unique characteristics.

Note most OOB units are double attack and defensive values: (Attack-Defense-Movement-Cost)

Infantry: 2-4-1-3
Artillery: 4-4-1-4
Mechanized Infantry:
Armor: 6-6-2-6
(Note: these are considered mid-war tank design and can’t be built till turn 3)
Fighter: 6-8-4-10
Tactical Bomber: 6-6-4-11
Strategic Bomber: 8-2-6-12
Battleship: 8-8-2-20
Cruiser: 6-6-2-12
Destroyer: 4-4-2-8
Submarine: 4-2-2-6
Carrier: 0-2-2-16
Transport: 0-0-2-7

New WOTC sculpts:
Note: These cannot be built as early as turn 3

LAND:
Heavy Artillery: These are a 6-4-1-5 unit and have a special feature. If they roll a one result in combat, the defender must select an air or non-infantry land unit as a combat loss.
Late War Tanks: These are 8-8-2-8 units and can blitz like other tanks. In all other respects these perform as tanks. These tanks can be built as early as turn 6.

SEA:
Battle-cruisers:  These are 7-6-2-16 units and like Battleships they take two hits. They also bombard at 3.
Super Carriers:  These are 2-4-2-18 units that carry 3 planes. They also take two hits, but the first hit does not affect their ability to launch or land fighters.
Destroyer Escorts: These are specialized units to protect convoys. They have a movement of 3 spaces or four if leaving a naval base. These are 4-2-3-10 units and have the same abilities as a destroyer, except as long as you have at least one Destroyer escort, all transports in the same sea zone as the destroyer escort defend at 1.
Heavy Transport: These perform just like Transports, except they carry three Infantry or two armor type units. These are 0-0-2-12 units.
Advanced Submarine Design:  These are 4-2-2-8 units and have special abilities. They can avoid combat with destroyers or destroyer escorts at a 1:1 basis. If you got for example 2 of these subs and you enter a sea zone with 1 destroyer escort or destroyer, they can avoid combat and  pass thru into the next sea zone. If for example you have 2 of these units and get attacked by at least 3 destroyers, combat is performed in the normal fashion. If at any time the destroyer count is equal to the submarine count, the advanced submarines can submerge immediately.

AIR:
Medium Bomber: These are 6-2-6-9 units and have a number of new features. They can  perform SBR like any other Bomber, but are the only units that can  pick up Paratroopers
Advanced Fighter design:  These are 8-8-4-14 units. The key feature is their ability to be used somewhat differently in SBR. In these actions they get a +1 in combat as escorts or as interceptors.

@FieldMarshalGames:

Uzo is the Greek version.

Thanks for clearing that up FMG  :-D Though I would still rather use Red wine for Italy, there are already so many harsh liquours on the list sambucca seems a bit extream.

Can anyone think of an acceptable beer for the Soviet Union?

Our 1939 World at war heavy bombers rules.

HB = special units.
Only UK and USA may produce HB. (Avro Lancaster & B29)

Germany may produce HB as tech. dev.

Cost = 18
Att = 4 (two dice for each industrial bombing attack).
Def = 2
Move = 8

Imperious Leader:
the whole idea of subs is to be on station waiting for some target to come by… If you just allow any destroyer to “SEE” the sub automatically on CM it defeats the purpose. I feel you must install that roll the DD has to make to achieve detection ( either that 3 or 2)

++++ Thanks Imperious Leader for your comments, you are right, I’ll drop this. Ditto the hidden subs.
Here are the new rules (bold stuff is new):

A player can submerge a submarine in his NCM phase or during his CM phase
when he retreats from an attack. Place a control marker under the
sub every round after the round where the sub submerged. When two markers are under the sub, it has to surface
in the next round. (In effect, it can move 8 fields submerged: 2 in the submerging round, 2 in marker one
round, 2 in marker two round, 2 in surfacing round).
(This may be a bit too much, I’ll have to playtest it. Maybe one marker is enough, making for 6 fields)

A submerged submarine may move through hostile sea zones without restriction.
Exception: When it enters a sea zone with an enemy destroyer in it, a die is rolled
for every sub in the pack. All subs must surface if at least one 3 is rolled (super sub: one 2)
Corollary: It is only allowed to enter a sea zone with a destroyer in it in a combat move phase.
Combat ensues when the subs have to surface.
The number of destroyers does not influence the detection dice roll, only the number of subs
(similar to AA gun / Fighter / Bomber rule)
The player may of course make a normal move and simply surface and attack the
destroyers in its CM.
All subs in the same sea zone have to surface at once.

**If a destroyer enters a sea zone where submerged enemy subs are stationed in a combat move,
they are detected on a roll of three (on a two for super subs). Again, roll as many dice as there are
subs in the sea zone, the number of destroyers has no effect. If a sub is detected, they are all detected
and have to suface.
(Optional rule: DD can go sub hunting: if they only move one sea zone in their CM phase instead of two

this has to be declared in advance - they may add 1 to their detection roll.**
Subs are never detected during a destroyer non combat move.

**4)  Attacking and defending subs may submerge except when an enemy destroyer is present (as stated in LHTR 1.3.).
If the sub submerges during combat, this round counts as a full submerging round.
Example: A sub has one marker under it, indicating that it has been submerged for two rounds.
In this round, it attacks on its CM phase, but retreats during the attack by submerging (or, if victorious, it
submerges in its NCM phase). Do not remove the control marker, instead, place another control marker under
the sub.

The markers are only removed if the sub surfaces during its NCM phase. (In effect, giving the opponent
the chance to take at least one combat action against subs even if he does not posess destroyers).**

So, I think I’ve thought of most of the stuff that can occur, I’ll start playtesting,  any feedback is welcome :-)
Additional thought: with this new sub capabiltiy, maybe it would be wise to raise the price of the sub?
(for instance to 10 IPCs?) And maybe the super sub advantages should not be applied to the DD detection
roles. Any comments would be much appreciated.

Regards,
sponge