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Question: Russian Captials
St. Petersburg & Moscow - 6 (85.7%)
Moscow & Kazan (Taterstan) - 0 (0%)
St. Petersburg & Kazan (Taterstan) - 1 (14.3%)
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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2017, 01:42:15 pm »
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To somewhat follow history, St. P should be capital.  So, would suggest the following...

1)  St. P and Moscow both changed to IPC value of 4.
2)  Russian Revolution rule remains same - ie. still Moscow based.
3)  If Russian Revolution occurs (do this before Armistice offered)...
   a)  Moscow becomes the capital for any future turns.
   b)  Any money in the treasury will be used to build in Moscow.
   c)  Moscow is now the new capital and can collect income.
4)  Once the above completed, then Russia can decide to accept or decline armistice.
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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2017, 03:11:49 pm »
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Nice. That works. Any objections?

Or should we make Moscow like Bombay, until the revolution fires. Then the roles switch?
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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2017, 04:42:11 pm »
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Change previous artwork to show new IPC values and Communist Russian capital emblem. 
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« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2017, 05:06:25 am »
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Mmm, my intention behind splitting Karelia was to prevent re-enforcing St P. from the White Sea, so I intended Karelia (i.e. Archangel) to have the port. Forgot to change the values.

Its an idea to give every European power double capitals and production centres viz:

St Petersburg & Moscow
Berlin & Munich
Vienna & Budapest
Constantinople & Ankara
Paris & Bordeaux* (this with Paris moved to the "Burgundy" tt)
Roma & Milan
London & Ottawa?

*Bordeaux was temporary French capital in the Franco-Prussian conflict and both World Wars.

I use WWII Russian infantry and control markers for "Red" communist units; they effectively become a fourth Central Powers nation but can only operate within original Russian tt.
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« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2017, 09:34:53 am »
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All of these are great, I would like to point ot that the UK has Bombay already.
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« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2017, 10:29:19 am »
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I like Flashman's comment on Bordeaux, may wish to consider the rule to allow France to move the capital.

To somewhat follow history, when Paris was threatened, the French government moved the capital to Bordeaux.   This rule to provide for that action...


1)  If Burgundy or Picardy is under enemy control, at the START of the France's turn, the player can choose to move the capital  to Bordeaux. 

2)  Bordeaux must be in France's control.
  Paris must be in control or contested.
3)  Once changed, the change becomes permanent for the remainder of the game.

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« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2017, 01:11:45 pm »
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the changed setup for marseille seems like a big thread for the ottomans, an amphibious attack on constantinople with these 3 inf and 1 art (together with the strong french med navy) followed by an british reinforcement could end mehmeds holy war in round 1.
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« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2017, 01:28:08 pm »
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I disagree with the changed setup for marseille. The french could make an amphibious attack on constantinople with these troops (and their big med navy) and the brits could finish the Turks before they even had one turn.

That would be suicide for the Allies. They would lose a lot of units in the process, and the Ottomans will just be able to take it back.

Also, we are splitting the SZ's in the Med. 
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« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2017, 03:45:31 pm »
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According to the official FAQ for 1914, the designers choose Moscow as the capital of Russia because it would be a more central location, even though it wasn't historically accurate.To solve this issue, I feel that Russia's capital should be Petrograd (St Petersburg) and it should have a second production center in Tatarstan (the city of Kazan) representing troops coming from Siberia and the far east, like how the British have Bombay in India. This way Russia has production centers in the north and the south.
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« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2017, 10:27:47 pm »
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I kinda like that idea. Ill start a poll.
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« Reply #25 on: August 31, 2017, 03:05:17 am »
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The following proposals have been made:

Map Changes:

Corrected Prussia/Poland Boarder
St. Petersburg changes
Corrected Bulgarian Coastline
New SZ's in Med

Capital Changes/Production Centers

Russian Capital to be moved to St. Petersburg
Possible Russian production in Kazan
French Capital can be moved to Bordeaux.

Other:

Changed Russian Revolution rules
Neutrality Rules

New Proposals:

Persia split into four territories.
Mesopotamia split into 2 Territories, Armenia(North, Value of 1) and Mesopotamia(South, Value of 2).


Any other new ideas? Can someone make a map of the current agreed on changes?
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« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2017, 04:57:33 am »
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I have also been looking at splitting up Arabia.   
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« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2017, 06:57:07 am »
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I have also been looking at splitting up Arabia.   

Wow that is a good idea, historically Shammar was allied to the Ottomans. Or perhaps make it a aligned nation with value of 1? So it can balance out against the British.

And also:
Mesopotamia split into 2 Territories, Armenia(North, Value of 1) and Mesopotamia(South, Value of 2).

That is a good idea Smiley
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« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2017, 12:45:13 pm »
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Awesome. I like it.
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« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2017, 03:04:22 pm »
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One of my old maps
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