• Customizer

    In Alpha final, can the Allies claim FIC for themselves in the same way they can take Dutch East Indies while NOT at war with Japan?  Or since it is French owned, it stays French?


  • @jim010:

    In Alpha final, can the Allies claim FIC for themselves in the same way they can take Dutch East Indies while NOT at war with Japan?  Or since it is French owned, it stays French?

    Stays french, acts french.  Can only be controlled by an Allied power if they capture it from an Axis power, and only so long as Paris is in Axis hands.


  • @kcdzim:

    @jim010:

    In Alpha final, can the Allies claim FIC for themselves in the same way they can take Dutch East Indies while NOT at war with Japan?  Or since it is French owned, it stays French?

    Stays french, acts french.  Can only be controlled by an Allied power if they capture it from an Axis power, and only so long as Paris is in Axis hands.

    I think Ho Chi Minh would have a problem with that… Haha, sorry, couldn’t resist that bad joke.  :-D

  • Customizer

    Bump.


  • It’s no different than any other capital-less french territory.
    No reason to think otherwise.

  • Liaison TripleA '11 '10

    Yea,

    But what if you play Pacific STAND ALONE?

    And why the HELL doesn’t France get the 2 IPC’s for the territory in Europe Stand Alone - whilst the Russians get their plus 9 or whatever.

    It’s B.S.

    And it’s a good question for Jim to be asking.

  • Official Q&A

    Kcdzim is correct.

    @Gargantua:

    But what if you play Pacific STAND ALONE?

    It’s the same.

    @Gargantua:

    And why the HELL doesn’t France get the 2 IPC’s for the territory in Europe Stand Alone - whilst the Russians get their plus 9 or whatever.

    Because it makes no difference.


  • @Krieghund:

    @Gargantua:

    But what if you play Pacific STAND ALONE?

    It’s the same.

    And in Pac only you assume that Paris is always occupied by Axis powers during the course of the game


  • @Gargantua:

    Yea,

    But what if you play Pacific STAND ALONE?

    And why the HELL doesn’t France get the 2 IPC’s for the territory in Europe Stand Alone - whilst the Russians get their plus 9 or whatever.

    It’s B.S.

    And it’s a good question for Jim to be asking.

    Why the HELL does Russia get their 9? I mean, really. Why?

    Like, seriously, considering how long some games go the Allies could have a moon base giving 1 IPC.


  • @Krieghund:

    @Gargantua:

    And why the HELL doesn’t France get the 2 IPC’s for the territory in Europe Stand Alone - whilst the Russians get their plus 9 or whatever.

    Because it makes no difference.

    Well to be fair, Germany could still use 70 IPCs as opposed to 68 on G2.

  • TripleA

    france starting income is 17 and not 19??? wut?


  • Only in the Europe-only game.

  • Liaison TripleA '11 '10

    Because it makes no difference.

    I really DISAGREE with that.  Those 2 Ipc’s are CRUCIAL for a valid Sea-Lion.  And in the right circumstances making one less spread out battle, to achieve the 70 IPC’s required.


  • who does sealion in alpha 3.9 anyways? it’s plain suicide against a moderate allied player.


  • @Rhey:

    who does sealion in alpha 3.9 anyways? it’s plain suicide against a moderate allied player.

    It depends on what UK does. Germany has to at least threaten sealion in most games and force UK to at least guard against it.


  • @seththenewb:

    @Rhey:

    who does sealion in alpha 3.9 anyways? it’s plain suicide against a moderate allied player.

    It depends on what UK does. Germany has to at least threaten sealion in most games and force UK to at least guard against it.

    Still depends on the Axis’ Unified Strategy… I’ve ignored UK after G1 before and taken Moscow.


  • @Gargantua:

    Yea,

    But what if you play Pacific STAND ALONE?

    And why the HELL doesn’t France get the 2 IPC’s for the territory in Europe Stand Alone - whilst the Russians get their plus 9 or whatever.

    It’s B.S.

    And it’s a good question for Jim to be asking.

    I don’t read Russia getting +9 when playing Europe 40 on its own anywhere. Where does it say so??? I’m confused…


  • @Rhey:

    who does sealion in alpha 3.9 anyways? it’s plain suicide against a moderate allied player.

    Has anyone trieb SBRs with the two German bombers on turn 1 to not allow the Brits to place many units there or having to pay for repairs first? If the bombers are not shot down they should do an average of 5 IPC damage each, which is 10 IPC in total. (23 + 22 as per the 3.9 alpha rules. Of course the Brits can use their fighters as interceptors, so the German will also have to send along one or two fighters, but if the British do that, then they won’t be able to scramble into an adjacent sea zone that will undoubtedly also be under attack.


  • @Koningstiger:

    @Rhey:

    who does sealion in alpha 3.9 anyways? it’s plain suicide against a moderate allied player.

    Has anyone trieb SBRs with the two German bombers on turn 1 to not allow the Brits to place many units there or having to pay for repairs first? If the bombers are not shot down they should do an average of 5 IPC damage each, which is 10 IPC in total. (23 + 22 as per the 3.9 alpha rules. Of course the Brits can use their fighters as interceptors, so the German will also have to send along one or two fighters, but if the British do that, then they won’t be able to scramble into an adjacent sea zone that will undoubtedly also be under attack.

    Well, the fighters plus AA would probably knock down 1 bomber, so it’s not close to profitable.


  • @techroll42:

    @Koningstiger:

    @Rhey:

    who does sealion in alpha 3.9 anyways? it’s plain suicide against a moderate allied player.

    Has anyone trieb SBRs with the two German bombers on turn 1 to not allow the Brits to place many units there or having to pay for repairs first? If the bombers are not shot down they should do an average of 5 IPC damage each, which is 10 IPC in total. (23 + 22 as per the 3.9 alpha rules. Of course the Brits can use their fighters as interceptors, so the German will also have to send along one or two fighters, but if the British do that, then they won’t be able to scramble into an adjacent sea zone that will undoubtedly also be under attack.

    Well, the fighters plus AA would probably knock down 1 bomber, so it’s not close to profitable.

    Of course you’d have to send, say, 2 German fighters along as well. Losses can then be taken on the fighters. Then only the AA would fire two dice in total against the two bombers. Not such a high probability of losing them then. I do agree with you it’s a high risk strategy, but if one is really hell-bent on trying Sea Lion thebn it will certainly help to make placing units on the UK more costly and difficult.

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