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TG Moses VI
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« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2002, 09:27:00 pm »
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Ture.  If you do the match numbers you risk losing either 11-14 IPCs if you get hits from subs on a destroyer or transport.  However you can also interpret half a battleship as being worth 12 IPCs...
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« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2002, 09:12:57 am »
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Buying battleships is really quite pointless, the only country that can really even think about doing it is the US, and in my opinion they have to get in the war too quickly to be buying battleships.
Maybe this is strange, but I've never played a game in which japan had'nt won or lost by the end of J4.  If Japan is going after India, which is often the case, the only hope with an American Navy is to invade mainland Japan, even that is hard to do by the fourth turn, and even this can usually be stopped with sub stalling.
So if I know Japan is going after India, I'll usually build four bobmbers to harass the Japanese with the only unit that can possibly get there in time, often the japs will leave transports unguarded, thinking them safe.
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« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2002, 12:53:19 pm »
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I just started playing Axis& Allies Pacific 2 days ago. What is Cameron talking about with the 2 hits thing? And I prefer destroyers by the way. Mostly because I use 5 carriers per game and destroyers are necessary to prevent first strikes that would destroy my carriers and possibly both fighters they are carrying. On the other hand, I prefer battleships for amphibious assaults.
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2002, 04:04:54 pm »
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embarassed (CORRECTED)

OK,
to clarify a few things -

The bb may be played as a 2 hit to sink it in the same turn(damage repaired at the end of the battles if did not receive 2 hits).

A)bb cost 24 IPCs hits on def/off @ 4 or less(66% chance to hit, 33% chance to miss),
B)can assist in amfib. Tongue  ass. with one shot @ 4 or less(66% chance to hit, 33% chance to miss), and
C)can absorb 1 first shot attack from ss and still shoot back,

COMPARED TO

A) des cost 12 IPCs hits on def/off @ 3 or less(50% chance to hit, 50% chance to miss),
B) can assist in amfib. Tongue  ass. with one shot @ 3 or less(50% chance to hit, 50% chance to miss),
C)cancels all first shot attacks from subs each round the des starts, and
D)enables ftrs to assist in attacks v subs in the same sz in each round of battle the des starts.

So the idea is for 24 IPCs you can get 1 bb  that will hit on 4 or less and survive if only takes one hit,

OR

for 24 IPCs you can get 2 des  that will hit on 3 or less(def) and lose one if it only takes one hit.
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« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2002, 02:14:45 am »
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I believe that Xi confused the defense and amphib assualt values for destroyers.  They defend at 3 or less and their one shot support attck is at 2 or less.
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« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2002, 02:11:18 pm »
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At last! someone is paying attention.

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« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2002, 12:30:47 pm »
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So, Xi, what is your final verdict?  Which one is better?  I'm sort of biased since I believe in a BIG ship navy.   Cool
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« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2002, 12:34:45 pm »
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Destroyers as Japan,
Battleships as US,
May the best planes win,
or was it plans?
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« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2002, 12:43:59 pm »
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Sure thing.  No subs?
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« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2002, 01:17:47 pm »
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My bb v des post of Aug 25 is corrected

and my opinion of bbs is henceforth changed to

DESs for everyone,
and a few SSs,
US CAs and FTRs, then
BMRs, TRNs and INF.

Eew-kay?

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« Reply #25 on: September 01, 2002, 01:26:44 pm »
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Awww... no BB's  angry
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« Reply #26 on: September 01, 2002, 07:16:40 pm »
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Protect what you got and use them to save a ship if you think the other nut will quit after this round.
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« Reply #27 on: September 01, 2002, 07:54:18 pm »
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Good.  Those Iowa Class battleships will be the death of Imperial Japan yet!  Smiley
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« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2002, 04:29:14 pm »
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Oh, yee-aah! Or better yet, YEEEE-HAW! - Xi
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« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2002, 04:42:38 pm »
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BB's should be able to shell during amphibious assualts each turn.  


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