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Author Topic: Is focusing against USA viable?  (Read 1957 times)
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« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2011, 09:38:40 am »
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I mean it requires a shitton of luck just because its such a crazy plan. It is a sound plan in my head. It hinges on a big string of successes and the American player not seeing it coming.

I understand, but in my opinion, the pharse has too many "if" statments.

If I get a string of successes
If The string of successes is big
If the American player does not see it coming

And if I may add,

If the American player does not know how to counter it.
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« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2011, 02:14:29 pm »
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All of those "ifs" are completely necessary to successfully invade and capture the mainland U.S. I really cannot envision a scenario where those don't occur. The plan has to be watertight. When you are pulling off something so ambitious you can't have parts of your plan fail because the whole thing is so dependent on being able to move forward as planned. For example, if I get bad dice and lose a bulk of my transports, the plan is finished and I will have 0% chance of being successful. Or another example. If the U.S. player gets worried I'm coming for him early and starts to build up there is nothing I can do to match that. I have to bring troops 2 moves away from where they are built and still defend other territories whereas the U.S. player can just stack. So if you can think of a plan to invade the U.S. with the axis that doesn't involve surprise and a large string of successes you are literally a tactical and strategic genius.
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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2011, 04:45:43 pm »
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Perhaps it is inevitable in this version of Axis and Allies.  I don't know, filmatleven to be sure.

However, I would feel more comfortable removing as many if statements as possible.  This is why I never went in for "Canadian Shield" but rather devised a more secure plan to invade from the Carolines.

Sure, IF America had been building right from the start, I wouldnt have gone to Carolines to begin with. - IF statment neutralized.
Sure, IF America saw the threat and countered it, I wouldn't attack W. USA, rather take Hawaii, New Zealand and Australia - IF statment neutralized.

If we could somehow alter the plan so there was an option to be useful when KAF seemed im-plausable, then it would be a golden thing to set up.  Why?  Why not, if it gets derailed you still have options for your units on the next round, without having to redeploy first.

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« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2011, 08:16:42 pm »
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Oh, then you misunderstood me. I'm not saying my plan isn't flexible to go after other targets. I am saying that if I want to go after the U.S. then those certain things must always occur. I never meant that if for some reason I lost an important battle that I would lose the game, merely that I would likely be unable to complete my objective of taking the USA.
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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2011, 10:29:04 pm »
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What about conquering PANAMA with the Japanese navy and bring both the Italian navy and then the germany nave on the other side of panama?
Of course the Japaneses must leave a blocker to counter a counter attack there.
Will you have a decent position there to treat W, E and C america with all three forces?
What are the IFs?
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