Query: G1 sub in SZ125 affects USSR NO?

@YUMYAM

By the way how did the US bonuses go? Did you get the correct amount? Or did the US 20 IPCs per theater?

These ideas come from some games with my frds where Russia and the USA become overly rich when Ger and Britain trying to fight each other.
The insane Russia bonus of +3IPC and immense stack of army make the Russia play wanna fight against everyone and ofcoz so as the 100+ income USA.

I dont know if you guys share the same thoughts as we do when we want to continue the game even either Axis or Allies has won, but thats why all these ideas come to my mind.

I suppose, this thread has been accidentally moved to the Global forum, because the same question has already been answered in the 1942SE-forum:

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=38035.msg1547350#msg1547350

(The answer applies for Global, too.)

I voted no because I don’t think a carrier is a must buy.  All depends on how you like to play.  I prefer 2 bombers and a sub.  Sometimes I buy 1 AC 1 Bomber.  Having a carrier with the German navy keeps it alive longer and keeps UK always worrying about it.  Also depends on my UK opponent and how well I know their play style.

I like the airbase + transports in sz100 idea, can’t wait to see your game going.

@Peck:

Does a sea zone have to be uncontested for a convoy disruption to work?  Japan sub beside java (uk owned) uk rolls in a crusier to kill the sub,  sub submerges.  Does the sub still cause a convoy disruption?

A seazone does not need to be uncontested - the simple presence of an enemy ship disrupts the convoy, even if friendly ships are in the same seazone.  If the allies has a ship in SZ6 at the mobilize units phase of Japan’s turn, Japan could not prevent the disruption in any way, even if they placed a far numerically superior force.  If there’s an enemy ship, it disrupts - end of story.

“Submerging” has no impact on any game phase beyond the combat phase - it is ONLY an ability of the submarine to disengage from the battle and remain in the same seazone.  The only time submarines can “submerge” is during combat and after combat is over, submarines are no longer considered submerged.  It is simply a retreat mechanism, it does not exist in any manner outside of the conduct combat phase.

@Gargantua:

you seemed to have forgotten that his subs could pass through the strait of Gibraltar without owning Gibraltar

I didn’t forget the rule, I was wholly unaware of it’s exsistence.  I believe it was an Alpha addition.  Yes a mistake.   And no you didn’t wipe the fleet, you wholly damaged it,  And you still failed to control gibraltar, or keep a significant amount of subs in the med.

And it certainly didn’t stop the Axis from winning that game either, so yea, the strategy is BAD.

You should have been building men and transports instead of Subs.

The straits rule is clearly stated in the manual, there is even an example that mentions Gibraltar.

For the record; that was the F2F game in Aldergrove just prior to Xmas not the game in this post. I (Idi Amin) was playing the UK not the USA. You (Gargantua) played Germany and Italy. It was the USA player (the host and a rookie) who completely decimated your spiffy Italian fleet East of Gibraltar. Control of Gibraltar is a moot point when attacking with sub fleets into the Med.

Axis victory you say?? Wow what game were you playing in?!? And as far as an Axis victory goes….I recall NO Sealion, Japan having NO navy AND air force, China HUGE, ANZAC/India controlling ALL the money islands, Britain building tanks in South Africa, Russia holding Norway and Finland and Italy with NO FLEET. If you call that was an Axis victory will you please give me a ride in your invisible helicopter sometime?

Thanks!