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« Reply #210 on: August 21, 2010, 09:38:22 am »
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These items are listed on the first page.

You really only need 1 each AAE40 and AAP40 and some units for fortifications ( table tactics infantry with gun cut off)
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« Reply #211 on: September 05, 2010, 09:36:55 am »
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« Reply #212 on: September 08, 2010, 02:53:26 pm »
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Early draught of my take on the Global map.

Includes list of neutral alignments on vital dates.
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« Reply #213 on: September 08, 2010, 04:53:11 pm »
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The names are based on 1939-1941 actual maps in 99% of the cases. These are cross confirmed with various other maps produced in USA and UK in this period.
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« Reply #214 on: September 09, 2010, 12:32:02 pm »
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Maps often lag behind official name changes, while names such as "Volgagrad" and "Belarus" by definition did not exist until long after the war.

Of course there's nothing wrong with using names such as "Mesopotamia", but the government of the country at the time called it "Iraq" so that's what I prefer to go along with.
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« Reply #215 on: September 09, 2010, 03:57:01 pm »
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Maps often lag behind official name changes, while names such as "Volgograd" and "Belarus" by definition did not exist until long after the war.

Of course there's nothing wrong with using names such as "Mesopotamia", but the government of the country at the time called it "Iraq" so that's what I prefer to go along with.

But these are the maps that were created from various sources of the day. My maps always use the vernacular of the time they are representing.

If the Generals who planned their battles made maps that used these titles, those are the ones i want to use and in view of any information to the contrary the names i used are more official in terms of this outlook.

I don't go by maps printed after the war ended, when various nations tried to throw off the names that were established by the colonial powers. They have no credibility to a map thats said to contain the information that war planners would have used in these times.

And i don't have Belarus on my map. I have no idea why you made that comment since it does not apply in this case.
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« Reply #216 on: September 17, 2010, 05:40:16 pm »
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Well my map can be printed from any printer on 8.5 x 11 sheets and taped together. That cant cost more than $20 in ink
        ILs 1939 setup.
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« Reply #217 on: September 17, 2010, 05:42:52 pm »
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Well my map can be printed from any printer on 8.5 x 11 sheets and taped together. That cant cost more than $20 in ink
        ILs 1939 setup.
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« Reply #218 on: September 17, 2010, 05:44:22 pm »
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Well my map can be printed from any printer on 8.5 x 11 sheets and taped together. That cant cost more than $20 in ink
        ILs 1939 setup.
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« Reply #219 on: September 17, 2010, 05:45:17 pm »
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Well my map can be printed from any printer on 8.5 x 11 sheets and taped together. That cant cost more than $20 in ink
        ILs 1939 setup.
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« Reply #220 on: September 17, 2010, 05:46:06 pm »
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« Reply #221 on: September 17, 2010, 09:14:56 pm »
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Something is really strange on your print. Your printer is somehow assigning the information on the pictures of the battle scenes incorrectly. It seems to 'square' these pics rather than blend them into the oceans seamlessly.

The high quality printout of that map does not do this at all.

But more important what is your take on the set up?

Note: You may have an old setup file.

I will repost the new one. Its not really different except like 2 pieces. Germany has two major factories

1939 Setups:

Germany:
10 Inf, 2 Art, 2 Mech Inf., 2 Tanks, 2 Fighters, 1 Tactical Bomber, 2 Bombers, 1 Major factory, 1 AA gun, 1 Fortification ( on German–Franco border)
Prussia: 3 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter
Slovakia: 3 Inf, 1 Art, 2 Tanks, 1 Tactical Bomber, 1 Major Factory, 1 AA gun
Baltic Sea: 1 BB, 1 CA, 1 DD, 2 SS, 2 AP
Sea Zones: 3, 6,8,17, 1 Submarine each.
Sea Zone 11: 2 Submarines

Italy:
3 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Tank, 2 Fighters, 1 Bomber, 1 Major Factory, 1 AA gun
Southern Italy: 2 Inf, 1 Mech, 1 Art
Sicily: 1 Inf
Tropolitania: 2 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Mech
Cyrenaica: 1 Inf
Italian East Africa: 2 Inf
Sea Zone 14: 1 BB, 1 CA, 2 DD, 2 SS, 2 AP

Japan:  
3 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Mech, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber, 1 Major Factory, 1 AA gun,
Sea Zone 63: 1 BB, 2 CV, (with 1 Fighter and 1 Tactical bomber each), 1 CA, 2 DD, 1 SS, 1 AP
Manchukuo: 2 Inf, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber, 1 Minor Factory
Hingan: 2 Inf
Hopei: 1 Inf
Shantung: 1 Inf
Anhwei: 2 Infantry, 1 Fighter
Korea: 1 Inf, 1 DD, 1 SS, 1 AP
Hokkaido: 1 Inf
Kyushu: 1 Inf
Iwo Jima: 1 Inf
Okinawa: 1 Inf
Formosa: 1 Inf
Siam: 1 Inf
Marianas Islands: 1 Inf, 1 BB, 1 CV (with 1 Fighter and 1 Tactical bomber), 1 CA, 1 DD, 1 AP
Caroline Islands: 1 Inf, 1 Fighter, 1 CA, 1 DD, 1 AP

France:
6 Inf, 2 Art, 3 Tanks, 2 Fighters, 1 Minor Factory, 1 Fortification (on Franco-German border)
Normandy: 1 Inf, 1 Minor Factory, 1 DD, 1 SS
Vichy France: 2 Inf, 1 Art
Levant States: 1 Inf
Morocco: 1 Inf
Algeria: 1 Inf
French West Africa: 1 Inf, 1 BB, 1 DD
French Madagaskar: 1 Inf

Vichy France: (after surrender all other units are removed)
Vichy: 2 Inf
Morocco: 1 Inf
Algeria: 1 Inf
French Madagaskar: 1 Inf
Levant States: 1 Inf

Free-French forces (British control)
1 Inf, and 1 Mech (place anywhere in non-vichy areas)

United Kingdom:
4 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Tank, 2 Fighters, 1 Bomber, 1 Major Factory, 1 AA gun
Egypt: 1 Inf,1 Mech Inf, 1 Art, 1 Tank
Gibraltar: 1 Inf, 1 Fortification
Malta: 1 Inf, 1 Fighter, 1 Fortification
Anglo-Egypt Sudan: 1 Inf
Rhodesia: 1 Inf
Union of South Africa: 1 Inf
Rajputana: 1 Inf, 1 Art
Madras: 2 Inf, 1 Minor Factory, 1 AA gun
Kwangtung: 1 Inf
Malaya: 2 Inf, 1 Fortification
Burma: 1 Inf
Sea Zone 2: 2 BB, 1 CA, 3 DD, 1 SS, 1 AP
Sea Zone 12: 1 CV (with 1 fighter and 1 Tactical Bomber), 1 CA, 1 DD
Sea Zone 15: 1 DD, 1 AP
Sea Zone 27: 1 CA
Sea Zone 35: 1 CA, 1 DD, 1 AP
Sea Zone 37: 1 BB
Sea Zone 39: 1 DD, 1 AP

Canada:
Yukon: 1 Inf
British Columbia: 1 Inf
Ontario: 1 Inf
Quebec: 1 Inf, 1 Tank
Sea Zone 1: 1 DD, 1 AP

ANZAC:
Northern Territory: 1 Inf
Queensland: 1 Inf
New South Whales: 3 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Minor factory
Sea Zone 41: 1 DD, 1 SS, 1 AP
New Zealand: 1 Inf

Soviet Union:
Karelia: 2 Inf
Archangel: 1 Inf
Leningrad: 3 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Fighter, 1 Minor Factory, 1 AA gun
White Russia: 2 Inf., 1 Art, 1 Tank
Ukrainian: 2 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter, 1 Minor Factory, 1 AA gun
Moscow: 2 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Mech, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter, 1 Bomber, 1 Major Factory, 1 AA gun
Caucasus: 2 Inf
Stalingrad: 1 Minor Factory, 1 AA gun
Kazak: 1 Inf, 1 Minor Factory
Trans- Caucasus: 2 Inf
Amur: 3 Inf
Buryatia: 2 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Mech, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter
Bashkir: 1 Inf
Sea Zone 4: 1DD, 1 AP
Sea Zone 5: 1DD
Sea Zone 16: 1 SS
Sea Zone 62: 1SS

United States:
Northeast USA: 2 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Tank, 1 Mech, 1 Fighter, 1 Major factory, 1 AA gun
West: 1 Inf
Midwest: 1 Tank, 1 Major Factory
Southern States: 2 Inf
Pacific States: 2 Inf, 1 Mech, 1 Bomber, 1 Major factory, 1 AA gun
Philippines: 2 Inf, 1 Art
Central America: 1 Inf
Panama: 1 Inf
Hawaii: 1 Inf, 1 Tactical Bomber
Alaska Range: 1 Inf
Sea Zone 10: 1 BB, 1 CV (with 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber), 1 DD, 2 AP
Sea Zone 19: 1 SS
Sea Zone 20: 1 DD
Sea Zone 50: 1 DD, 1 AP
Sea Zone 54: 2 BB, 1 DD, 1 AP
Sea Zone 55: 1 SS
Sea Zone 57: 1 CV (with 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber), 1 CA, 1 AP
Sea Zone 58: 1 SS

China:
Shan: 1 Inf
Tibet: 1 Inf
Sinkaing: 1 Inf
Ningsia: 1 Inf
Kokonor: 1 Inf
Szechwan: 3 Infantry, 1 Art, 1 Fighter
Shensi: 1 Inf
Hupeh: 1 Inf
Fukien: 1 Inf
Yunnan: 1 Inf

Benelux ( Dutch) :
Benelux: 2 Inf
Sea Zone 38: 1 DD, 1 AP

Mongolia:
Tannu-Tuwa: 2 Inf
Durbet-Kobdo: 1 Inf
Central Mongolia: 2 Inf
Khangai: 2 Inf
Kentai: 2 Inf
Gobi: 3 Inf

Minor-Axis Allies:
Finland: 1 Inf, 1 Tank
Lapland: 1 Inf
Viipuri: 3 Inf, 1 Artillery, 1 Fortification (on Finnish- Soviet border at Viipuri)
Romania: 6 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Mech, 1 Tank
Bulgaria: 3 Inf, 1 Art
Hungary: 4 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Tank

Pro-Axis Neutrals:
Spain:
6 Inf, 1 Art, 1 tank
Spanish Morocco: 1 Inf
Sea Zone 13: 1 CA, 1 DD, 1 SS

Argentina:
2 Inf, 1 Art,
Sea Zone 25: 2 DD

Sweden: 3 Inf

Pro-Allied Neutrals:
Brazil:
4 Inf, 2 Art, 1 Minor factory, 1 AA gun
Sea Zone 18: 1 DD
Iraq: 1 Inf
Persia: 1 Inf
Saudi Arabia: 1 Inf
Venezuela: 2 Inf
Colombia: 1 Inf
Peru: 1 Inf
Bolivia: 1 Inf
Baluchistan: 2 Inf

Neutrals:
Norway: 1 Inf
West Poland: 5 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Fighter
East Poland: 1 Inf
Yugoslavia: 2 Inf
Greece: 1 Inf
Crete: 1 Inf
Portugal: 1 Inf
Chile: 2 Inf

Turkey:
Western Turkey: 3 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Tank
Armenia: 2 Inf
Sea Zone 16: 1 DD

also fortifications are now different:

Base cost of 4 IPC and this includes one border. The exceptions to this are the Maginot Line and Siegfried line ( which only pertain to the border they are placed in)

All other forts are now placed inside the territory and effect attacks from all areas into the same.

The base cost is 4 IPC and 2 IPC for each border that is adjacent. the first border is free and built into the base cost.

So if you got a small island the cost is 4 IPC

If you build one in an area that is next to 5 different borders including sea zones...cost is 4 IPC +2 +2 +2 +2= 12 IPC... remember the first is always free.

thats the changes.

enjoy the game and please play it and post how it goes.

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« Reply #222 on: September 18, 2010, 04:19:07 am »
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Something is really strange on your print. Your printer is somehow assigning the information on the pictures of the battle scenes incorrectly. It seems to 'square' these pics rather than blend them into the oceans seamlessly.

The high quality printout of that map does not do this at all.

But more important what is your take on the set up?

Note: You may have an old setup file.

I will repost the new one. Its not really different except like 2 pieces. Germany has two major factories

1939 Setups:

Germany:
10 Inf, 2 Art, 2 Mech Inf., 2 Tanks, 2 Fighters, 1 Tactical Bomber, 2 Bombers, 1 Major factory, 1 AA gun, 1 Fortification ( on German–Franco border)
Prussia: 3 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter
Slovakia: 3 Inf, 1 Art, 2 Tanks, 1 Tactical Bomber, 1 Major Factory, 1 AA gun
Baltic Sea: 1 BB, 1 CA, 1 DD, 2 SS, 2 AP
Sea Zones: 3, 6,8,17, 1 Submarine each.
Sea Zone 11: 2 Submarines

Italy:
3 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Tank, 2 Fighters, 1 Bomber, 1 Major Factory, 1 AA gun
Southern Italy: 2 Inf, 1 Mech, 1 Art
Sicily: 1 Inf
Tropolitania: 2 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Mech
Cyrenaica: 1 Inf
Italian East Africa: 2 Inf
Sea Zone 14: 1 BB, 1 CA, 2 DD, 2 SS, 2 AP

Japan:  
3 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Mech, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber, 1 Major Factory, 1 AA gun,
Sea Zone 63: 1 BB, 2 CV, (with 1 Fighter and 1 Tactical bomber each), 1 CA, 2 DD, 1 SS, 1 AP
Manchukuo: 2 Inf, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber, 1 Minor Factory
Hingan: 2 Inf
Hopei: 1 Inf
Shantung: 1 Inf
Anhwei: 2 Infantry, 1 Fighter
Korea: 1 Inf, 1 DD, 1 SS, 1 AP
Hokkaido: 1 Inf
Kyushu: 1 Inf
Iwo Jima: 1 Inf
Okinawa: 1 Inf
Formosa: 1 Inf
Siam: 1 Inf
Marianas Islands: 1 Inf, 1 BB, 1 CV (with 1 Fighter and 1 Tactical bomber), 1 CA, 1 DD, 1 AP
Caroline Islands: 1 Inf, 1 Fighter, 1 CA, 1 DD, 1 AP

France:
6 Inf, 2 Art, 3 Tanks, 2 Fighters, 1 Minor Factory, 1 Fortification (on Franco-German border)
Normandy: 1 Inf, 1 Minor Factory, 1 DD, 1 SS
Vichy France: 2 Inf, 1 Art
Levant States: 1 Inf
Morocco: 1 Inf
Algeria: 1 Inf
French West Africa: 1 Inf, 1 BB, 1 DD
French Madagaskar: 1 Inf

Vichy France: (after surrender all other units are removed)
Vichy: 2 Inf
Morocco: 1 Inf
Algeria: 1 Inf
French Madagaskar: 1 Inf
Levant States: 1 Inf

Free-French forces (British control)
1 Inf, and 1 Mech (place anywhere in non-vichy areas)

United Kingdom:
4 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Tank, 2 Fighters, 1 Bomber, 1 Major Factory, 1 AA gun
Egypt: 1 Inf,1 Mech Inf, 1 Art, 1 Tank
Gibraltar: 1 Inf, 1 Fortification
Malta: 1 Inf, 1 Fighter, 1 Fortification
Anglo-Egypt Sudan: 1 Inf
Rhodesia: 1 Inf
Union of South Africa: 1 Inf
Rajputana: 1 Inf, 1 Art
Madras: 2 Inf, 1 Minor Factory, 1 AA gun
Kwangtung: 1 Inf
Malaya: 2 Inf, 1 Fortification
Burma: 1 Inf
Sea Zone 2: 2 BB, 1 CA, 3 DD, 1 SS, 1 AP
Sea Zone 12: 1 CV (with 1 fighter and 1 Tactical Bomber), 1 CA, 1 DD
Sea Zone 15: 1 DD, 1 AP
Sea Zone 27: 1 CA
Sea Zone 35: 1 CA, 1 DD, 1 AP
Sea Zone 37: 1 BB
Sea Zone 39: 1 DD, 1 AP

Canada:
Yukon: 1 Inf
British Columbia: 1 Inf
Ontario: 1 Inf
Quebec: 1 Inf, 1 Tank
Sea Zone 1: 1 DD, 1 AP

ANZAC:
Northern Territory: 1 Inf
Queensland: 1 Inf
New South Whales: 3 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Minor factory
Sea Zone 41: 1 DD, 1 SS, 1 AP
New Zealand: 1 Inf

Soviet Union:
Karelia: 2 Inf
Archangel: 1 Inf
Leningrad: 3 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Fighter, 1 Minor Factory, 1 AA gun
White Russia: 2 Inf., 1 Art, 1 Tank
Ukrainian: 2 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter, 1 Minor Factory, 1 AA gun
Moscow: 2 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Mech, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter, 1 Bomber, 1 Major Factory, 1 AA gun
Caucasus: 2 Inf
Stalingrad: 1 Minor Factory, 1 AA gun
Kazak: 1 Inf, 1 Minor Factory
Trans- Caucasus: 2 Inf
Amur: 3 Inf
Buryatia: 2 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Mech, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter
Bashkir: 1 Inf
Sea Zone 4: 1DD, 1 AP
Sea Zone 5: 1DD
Sea Zone 16: 1 SS
Sea Zone 62: 1SS

United States:
Northeast USA: 2 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Tank, 1 Mech, 1 Fighter, 1 Major factory, 1 AA gun
West: 1 Inf
Midwest: 1 Tank, 1 Major Factory
Southern States: 2 Inf
Pacific States: 2 Inf, 1 Mech, 1 Bomber, 1 Major factory, 1 AA gun
Philippines: 2 Inf, 1 Art
Central America: 1 Inf
Panama: 1 Inf
Hawaii: 1 Inf, 1 Tactical Bomber
Alaska Range: 1 Inf
Sea Zone 10: 1 BB, 1 CV (with 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber), 1 DD, 2 AP
Sea Zone 19: 1 SS
Sea Zone 20: 1 DD
Sea Zone 50: 1 DD, 1 AP
Sea Zone 54: 2 BB, 1 DD, 1 AP
Sea Zone 55: 1 SS
Sea Zone 57: 1 CV (with 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber), 1 CA, 1 AP
Sea Zone 58: 1 SS

China:
Shan: 1 Inf
Tibet: 1 Inf
Sinkaing: 1 Inf
Ningsia: 1 Inf
Kokonor: 1 Inf
Szechwan: 3 Infantry, 1 Art, 1 Fighter
Shensi: 1 Inf
Hupeh: 1 Inf
Fukien: 1 Inf
Yunnan: 1 Inf

Benelux ( Dutch) :
Benelux: 2 Inf
Sea Zone 38: 1 DD, 1 AP

Mongolia:
Tannu-Tuwa: 2 Inf
Durbet-Kobdo: 1 Inf
Central Mongolia: 2 Inf
Khangai: 2 Inf
Kentai: 2 Inf
Gobi: 3 Inf

Minor-Axis Allies:
Finland: 1 Inf, 1 Tank
Lapland: 1 Inf
Viipuri: 3 Inf, 1 Artillery, 1 Fortification (on Finnish- Soviet border at Viipuri)
Romania: 6 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Mech, 1 Tank
Bulgaria: 3 Inf, 1 Art
Hungary: 4 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Tank

Pro-Axis Neutrals:
Spain:
6 Inf, 1 Art, 1 tank
Spanish Morocco: 1 Inf
Sea Zone 13: 1 CA, 1 DD, 1 SS

Argentina:
2 Inf, 1 Art,
Sea Zone 25: 2 DD

Sweden: 3 Inf

Pro-Allied Neutrals:
Brazil:
4 Inf, 2 Art, 1 Minor factory, 1 AA gun
Sea Zone 18: 1 DD
Iraq: 1 Inf
Persia: 1 Inf
Saudi Arabia: 1 Inf
Venezuela: 2 Inf
Colombia: 1 Inf
Peru: 1 Inf
Bolivia: 1 Inf
Baluchistan: 2 Inf

Neutrals:
Norway: 1 Inf
West Poland: 5 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Fighter
East Poland: 1 Inf
Yugoslavia: 2 Inf
Greece: 1 Inf
Crete: 1 Inf
Portugal: 1 Inf
Chile: 2 Inf

Turkey:
Western Turkey: 3 Inf, 1 Art, 1 Tank
Armenia: 2 Inf
Sea Zone 16: 1 DD

also fortifications are now different:

Base cost of 4 IPC and this includes one border. The exceptions to this are the Maginot Line and Siegfried line ( which only pertain to the border they are placed in)

All other forts are now placed inside the territory and effect attacks from all areas into the same.

The base cost is 4 IPC and 2 IPC for each border that is adjacent. the first border is free and built into the base cost.

So if you got a small island the cost is 4 IPC

If you build one in an area that is next to 5 different borders including sea zones...cost is 4 IPC +2 +2 +2 +2= 12 IPC... remember the first is always free.

thats the changes.

enjoy the game and please play it and post how it goes.


      Our first game is scheduled for Monday the 20th. I will adjust the setup according to your list. Yes I will post the results. It may take a while as we have been having a session once a week and leave the game set up in my shop game room.
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« Reply #223 on: September 18, 2010, 02:06:57 pm »
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OK IL, thanks for the updated setup. I found quite a few errors and changed them. I have one question. Your setup lists the German navy in the Black Sea. Did you intend for these to be placed in the Baltic Sea instead? The ships will not be able to leave the Black Sea unless Germany takes Turkey. Thanks for your help.
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« Reply #224 on: September 18, 2010, 03:21:30 pm »
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Yes Baltic. That is a typo.
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