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« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2009, 04:40:46 pm »
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This is about TripleA being shut down.  Not tech, don't we have enough of those threads already?

Secondly, if they started with TripleA where will they end?  BattleMap uses the same exact map, could that be shut down?  Could IL's deluxe map he made be forced off the net?  Etc.

Doesn't really matter though, i'll still use tripleA and now I will not purchase the new game they are making.  Period.
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« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2009, 05:42:45 pm »
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yes, every thread on this forum seems to get hijacked at some point into either a discussion about tech, nos, dice, strats, rules, etc.

PLEASE EVERYONE,
even if you do not use TripleA, please express your solidarity with other A&A players and other forum members by SENDING HASBRO AN EMAIL PLZ
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« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2009, 07:29:16 pm »
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I haven't read all of this thread, but in case anyone hasn't said it...

Maybe they shut it down because they are about to sell a better version themselves?  huh
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« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2009, 09:14:45 pm »
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Maybe they shut it down because they are about to sell a better version themselves?

Hello? Thats exactly what it must mean. They remove the competition so they can maximize the success of their product.

Except for the fact that when they release a new boardgame they do absolutely nothing to support it, so this could be some kind of 'chimp reaction' from stale bananas. WOTC chimps often do radical things for no good reason because somebody pulled their chain too hard or a chimp fell out of its tree.
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« Reply #34 on: July 17, 2009, 02:03:07 am »
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Hasbro did not support the CD-rom from 98, so they probably are not going to support an A&A game if they make it.

It's easy to make something with better graphics than TripleA, and it's a question of money, just hire a bunch of coders then the official game will be much better than TripleA. But there is good reason that many of us prefer TripleA before GTO, and that is that imo, the only thing which is better at GTO is better graphics. TripleA has tons of options compared to the GTO version.

And it's doubtful that Hasbro will manage to shut down TripleA, the only problem at the moment is that the development process is stopped b/c it can't be hosted at sourceforge until the copyright issue has been solved, or fixed, but it can be hosted elsewhere. This hole thing pisses me off, Hasbro is not interested in making a better product than TripleA, so they use a lawyer and send a letter, instead of hiring coders to make a better game than triplea, I myself and other players will chose whatever game or software platform we think suits our needs most.
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« Reply #35 on: July 17, 2009, 02:49:03 am »
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We need to get the lobby going again.


they canīt really ban a lobby, even if we only uses a IRC channel it would suffice. then we just set up a normal direct connect game.

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« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2009, 04:56:08 am »
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Advanced Artillery, Mechanized Infantry and a few others are 'tricks' to avoid directly adding these units to the game as new pieces, but 'invented' by taking the existing ideas and adding nothing really in terms of a new idea that leads to a new dynamic strategy.

NO reality has these technologies in a game. Both existed in WW1. If you look at the actual major technologies that were important and first used in WW2, both of these would NEVER make the list.


Well maybe they could have done both - had it as tech - and create pieces which could only be used after the tech was acquired. I always thought they should have done that with jet fighters from 2nd Ed. on.

You could have a helicopter tech! (God knows what it would be).
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« Reply #37 on: July 17, 2009, 05:01:10 am »
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PS: It does suck about triple A. If anything because a lot of people spent a lot of time putting all that together and now it's been f**ked.

It's just important to stay informed about where things go from here. Where there's a will there's a way. There must be ways for the willing to get around legal restrictions.

We wait and see.

PPS: I doubt an A&A game is going to come out from Hasbro. In reality - whenever I looked at Triple A they had at most a few 100 downloads. It's hardly a market for a commercial game is it?

That's why I don't understand Hasbro - they seem to be being rather petty about it all. It's not like there's copies of AA50 not flying off the shelves while triple A downloads are hitting their second million. (I live in London and got my AA50 from NEW ZEALAND for chrissakes).

Hey ho.
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« Reply #38 on: July 17, 2009, 06:08:11 am »
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It's fully possible that there will be software version from Hasbro, but I didn't hear anything yet, so I don't believe it until I see it.
And if we look at history, Hasbro/wotc did not spend a lot of resources on A&A, even if the boardgames look fine. I have very strong doubts that an official A&A game will be better than TripleA, and that is not b/c TripleA is very good, it's b/c Wotc/Hasbro don't care about A&A.

At least they should make GTO as good as TripleA, even if I don't like the layout. An official software A&A game must have all the options of TripleA, plus the graphics of GTO, and all A&A variants, not only Revised, b/c thats the only thing GTO can offer right now, and it took several months before they implemented bids... rolleyes
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« Reply #39 on: July 17, 2009, 12:44:50 pm »
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In light of the recent actions regarding the removal of Triple A, this chimp action can only make sence in a continuing series of stupid chimp antics and chimp behavior. I post at these forums at least once a week. Its like a chicken with a head cut off.
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« Reply #40 on: July 17, 2009, 02:24:19 pm »
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If it wasn't for the forthcoming release of AA42 I could suspect that Hasbro/Wotc wanted to kill A&A completely...!

Most of the members on AA.org are mostly, or also playing the boardgame f2f in local playgroups, but many of us prefer the software versions of A&A, be it Abattlemap, GTO or TripleA. The most important things we have in common, is that we love A&A, preferably Revised and AA50. That's the most important matter here, not if it is boardgame or software.

We agree on some matters IL, and we disagree on other issues, but we both love A&A.

TripleA will not be removed, but the developing process have been halted.
TripleA helps A&A evolving, as does the hundreds or thousands of local f2f playgroups across the world.

Wotc/Hasbro are really into a strategy of sabotaging A&A seriously, imo.  Where will it end???
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« Reply #41 on: July 17, 2009, 03:47:08 pm »
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Just pray they don't release a new version each 3 months as they do with Magic, making the game unplayable for all saving 24/7 players  cheesy They are walking in that direction, making random changes to the rules (Nerfed Industry tech) and changing the faqs each month  undecided
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« Reply #42 on: July 17, 2009, 04:36:09 pm »
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We agree on some matters IL, and we disagree on other issues, but we both love A&A.

we don't agree on LL. I only really favor it for AA guns firing at multiple planes. Yes AA must be protected and evolve to greater things. Yes we fight for this!
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« Reply #43 on: July 17, 2009, 10:13:01 pm »
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Thanks for the email links Veqryn, sent emails off to all those bastards at WoTC and Hasbro.  The amount of apathy on these forums is astonishing; Hasbro threatens a DMCA takedown to a freely hosted fanservice of one of their lesser sold products, and the majority of people just flame it into oblivion and even suggest that the program sucked anyway and deserved to be shut down...  When Hasbro comes after your AABattlemap and Mapview programs next, don't expect much support from me... cry

Let's get everyone on the same page here, dammit!  Refuse to buy any Hasbro products and let them know that what they are doing is infuriating their fan base by clamping down on fan-made freeware!  If they had made a superior product that was worthy of  attention that'd be one thing, but threatening copyright infringement on a freeware game that has a total of 300 users worldwide is ridiculous.  Most of you out there apparently don't even like TripleA, even though somehow it was popular enough to have been shut down.

Definitely NOT buying AA1942 after Hasbro has completely eliminated any chance of me having fun with the Axis and Allies franchise anymore.  People in town don't play the boardgame, they can't stay around for 12 hours to play one game, plus you can't save those games anyway to pick up later.  TripleA was the easiest way for me to find matches in their online lobby and ran generally flawlessly for me.  THEY HAD A WORKING VERSION OF AA50 THAT I WANTED TO USE FOR THE TECH TOURNEY.  So F*** you, Hasbro, never buying one of your products again.

Hopefully we'll get somewhere with this, Veqryn, as we apparently are the only ones who give a rats ass.  I just can't understand the total lack of support from the Axis and Allies Community, as they apparently will use ANY thread to pointlessly debate about Technology rules while Hasbro gleefully pulls the rug out from under them.
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« Reply #44 on: July 18, 2009, 12:18:20 am »
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This is interesting because Hasbro sold the ELECTRONIC rights of all the Avolon Hill games to Atari several years ago. This is why there never was an electronic version of Squad Leader released and why Atari put out the atrocious RTS version of Axis and Allies a year or so ago. So if I am correct Hasbro dose not even have the legal authority to shut down trippleA.
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