Looking at the map and the way the territories are laid out, I think there are some very cool things Russia can do if they are forced to fall back to Cauc and Mos.

Well I went with the East Indies plan. He did not go after my flee, so I had time to build up and attack his. It worked beautifully, but by that time Russia was too far gone. He had so many tanks piled up  on both sides it was too little too late. If only this if only that.

Next time, I’ll have to keep this plan in mind and go for it much earlier. Concentrate on the pacific fleet, and try to keep the UK fleet in play longer, instead of sacrificing it.

What can I say, I was rusty! Next time!

There was another thread where it was discussed whether attacking subs could retreat, or only submerge.  Just wanted to make it clear they can retreat with the other attacking units.  No harm meant……

Revised is sometimes also called 4th Edition.

In one of my games, I had staged UK in Karelia with about 15 units…

at one point of the game, I also had 5 trannies in SZ 4…
I pulled 10 units out of Karelia and put them into an amphibious assault in Western Europe!
Germany didn’t see that one coming, I can tell you!!!
USA could easily reinforce W-E massively as well, so G ended up looking at about 20 units in W-E.
I can tell you: the next round G was taken and my adversary resigned :-P

I think the only thing Japan can do IF he wants to build 2 IC’s: go defensive for one or 2 turns.

defend those newly build IC’s or you’ll lose them :-P

(still think it’s a better idea to buy one IC and a transport)

Actually it is 2 FIGs that can make it without the Kaze rule… Western and Norway.  And of course the BOM can reach.

Before you push for a removal of the Kaze rule, try taking the Allies next game and do the FIG transfer from Russia and drop their odds to 1 in 16 of succeeding in their strike on London.

THAT may make them more willing to change the rules…

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Octopus, it’s in my siggy.  Ha.  :-D

Ezto, all the best players from flames-of-europe can play low luck.  When they’re ready to play with the big kids, they can come on down and play a REAL man.  Woman.  Small fuzzy creature from Alpha Centauri.  :-P.  I can understand the appeal of lowering the luck factor, but to me, luck is a vital part of the game.  You have to have, um, cojones, for lack of a better word.  Even when the odds are in your favor, there’s always an element of risk.

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I prefer Revised to Classic, but I can see that classic has its points.  First, old dogs don’t like change.  Second, some people just prefer classic’s play style.  (Three dice for heavy bombers, that was the stuff . . .)

I know this is an old thread, but since Nix tried it against me last week, worth revisiting…

The Alaska Insertion FAILED.  Japan’s fleet, plus the pouring of units to Asia, was too much for the US to counter via Alaska.  And that was with the benefit of a US IC in Sinkiang as well to further retrict Japan.

Of course, UK losing their shiny new IC in India on J1 was also a pretty serious blow… but not totally unexpected.

I think that without allied support it is hard for Russia to be offensive.  If the Japan and Germany players are on the same page then they are gunning for you.  I agree with switch that the West Russia stack is Russia’s primary offensive weapon but without aid from the other allies they can’t defeat Germany or Japan.  I suggest defending on the Japanese flank and picking your fights wisely on the German front until the UK and US fortify Karelia or attack Western Europe.  No matter how offensive you want to be your primary focus has to be holding Moscow because 99% of the time the Axis will be coming from both sides.

Further update for anyone considering ordering additional pieces…

I received my back-ordered INF today, giving me a complete triple set of pieces.

Again, the UK INF were Sea Foam Green…

I did have to abandon my “floss boxes” for pieces (I was using 1 full sized box Axis, 1 full sized Allies, 1 half sized chips, etc).  I have replaced them with a small 26 drawer organizer.  With the dividers available, I was able to almost make one space for each type of unit (I still lumped all Capital ships into one of the larger drawers (still dividied by nation of course), and both bombers and FIGs share a drawer for each nation).  But otherwise, each nation is in its own row, and each unit is in its own drawer or within a section of a drawer.  It holds even the triple count of units nicely, and it is INCREDIBLY easy and quick to find what I need.

For those who do not travel with their board, a great way to organize the whole thing :-)

Of course, with the vast increase in available units, now I REALLY need to get one of those oversized boards (but my table isn;t large enough to hold one :-(  )

Of course, my Russia 1 move last night in a Warclub Ladder game makes curse real dice!  I did my usual West Russia/Ukraine attack.  My opponent had no extra units in Europe from the bid, so I liked my chances.  And though I did win both, when all was said and done I had lost 8 of my 9 Inf in WR.  OUCH!!!  The dice simulator said the chances of that (or worse) are less than 3%.

Boy, do I have a huge hole to dig myself out of.

Despite the fact that Low/No Luck would have worked out much better for me on R1 this game, I still go with the real dice.  But after that battle I did reconsider the choice for awhile….

“Che is a fool’s hero.  Qutoing him with admiration demonstrates ignorance, moral confusion, or both.”

I fully agree with that statement! excellent sig BTW.

@ncscswitch:

Even if you are CERTAIN to lose at least 1 FIG in battle does not matter.

When are you CERTAIN?
in a game with real dice, there is a REALLY, REALLY big chance you’ll lose it, but you are never CERTAIN :-P  :evil:

Europe for the GER player, was the most boring time experience ever! You prayed for the pizza to arrive.

it is hard to slow JPN in the intial rounds. they are the axis “ace in the hole”. I would not sack 2 RUS tanks.

before I ever heard the exact rules of A&AR, I thought that a part of the combat sequence was like this:

the attacker attacks with his attacking dice the defender defends with his defending dice the defender attacks with his defending dice the attacker defends with his attacking dice casualties are taken from the board
(…step 1 till 5 again…)

maybe a little feedback is needed?
say 4 fighters attack 3 infantry and 2 fighters?

the attacker rolls 4 dice. he rolls (as an example: 1,2,3,4) so 3 hits the defender rolls his defense: infantry 2,5,6 and fighter 4,5 so he has defended 2 of his units good, but will lose one unit (the third hit he could not prevent by defending rolls) the defender makes a counterattack with his defending dice (he is in his own territory, so he has an advantage…): he rolls 2,3,4 for inf and 4,6 for figs. so, 1 hit for the inf and 1 hit for the figs. the attacker rolls for this counterattack and rolls a 3,4,5,6 so only one die (the ‘3’) is good for the attacker to prevent the damage sustained. another unit has to die…

you can see this is a whole other way of playing, and would make the game look more like “warhammer”
I just thought the game would be played this way, but since I know the rules, I know it’s not  :lol:
I’m not suggesting you should play this way…
you can always say every casualty has a “save” of a “1 on 6” or a “2 on 6” to prevent being lost and still stay in battle…
I know this rule would prolong battle, but sometimes people want this…
:-P

Still, I can’t keep up :-P

I don’t have that much time at work ;-)
(since it’s the only place I can look at the boards)

I should have gone heavy against Russia from the start with Japan, not go mess around n Canada to put even more brakes on US…

But im on the way… and Russia can´t take India if you want to keep Cauccasus…

OK 88, no i like the africa deployment plan, but do you suggest dropping my guys off in algeria or below algeria round 2?  also what kind of force will I be looking at.  If I hit algeria then that means I can feasibly get 3 inf/1 art/2 tanks into there, and then the round after that I can deploy an airplane or two from my carrier.  also what type of navy would you suggest I build t1/t2, I was looking at an initial build of 1 ac, 1 sub, 1 trannie, 1 inf, 1 armor