@AA:

Hello,I was wondering what is a good AAP Task Force and when it’s good to get your ships moving towards Japan?

UK needs subs, followed by transports guarded by destroyers, plus your starting AC and Battleship if they have managed to survive and move that far.

US needs subs and bombers…your starting surface ships (minus Pearl Harbor), and the occasional loaded transport, are all that are necessary to gain ground against the Japanese. Subs and bombers both serve well in keeping the Japanese from attacking your smaller fleet. Individual subs blocking attack against your fleet by placing themselves between you and the Japanese, and large numbers of subs and bombers force the Japanese to run the risk of a decisive counterattack if they attempt to force the issue…and subs are ideal for retaking convoy routes and denying the Japanese necessary income because they cannot be killed by aircraft alone. Any destroyers that aid in such a fight will fall prey to your bombers unless they are well guarded. Eventually, Japan will have to invest in replacement destroyers just to keep his income up.

@Constantinople:

OK, so there are only 6 kamikaze attacks total, Japan could conduct all 6 attacks agst one US/UK fleet as it entered one of those specially marked kamikaze zones, correct?

Correct.

@Constantinople:

If it did that there will be no more kamikaze attacks at all on the board again, becz they are now all used up. It is not 6 attacks per zone, right?

It’s six attacks total for the entire game.

@Constantinople:

OK, Japan can use the kamikaze attacks not only when the Allies move on the Allies combat, non-combat?? turn, but also as it combat moves on it’s own turn, correct?

They can be used after any player’s combat movement.

@Constantinople:

And what is different too, is that Japan picks the casualties for each kamikaze hit, correct?

Correct.  The targets are chosen before any dice are rolled.

@Constantinople:

The casualties do not fire back if thay had just entered an empty seazone, correct? They only fire back if there are Japanese naval units present, correct?

Correct, as there would be nothing to fire at if there are no Japanese units.

I just got AAP for Christmas.  I have played A&A classic and revised for several years.  If you don’t mind playing a noob I’d be game for it.

LT

Perhaps go with your heart.  I , a dilettante student of the Pacific war, first purchased AAP because that is where my interests lie.
I will get Guadalcanal soon.

If you are fascinated by a particular aspect or theater of WWII,  get the game that plays out that theater.  If you are fascinated by DDay, get it!
Support your local store and let them know you’ll be back for other versions!

@OctavianNT:

So the ftr can establish a CAP or move and fight, but not both correct?

Correct.  A fighter may not take any other action on the turn that it establishes CAP.

@OctavianNT:

And landing from a CAP does not impede either of these options^?

Also correct.  A fighter may function normally on the turn that it lands from CAP.  Of course, if it plans on establishing CAP again on that same turn, it may not do anything else.

Nice chart Krieghund.  :-)

Well, the beauty of having both sets is you have enough Hellcats to play with only Hellcats.  I don’t mind using both planes, but I only use the navy planes on the carriers.

I HATE loosing my fighters when my carriers go down. :cry:

Never take Hawaii,it’s really a bad idea and having carriers withing 3 spaces of it is REALLY BAD!!!Trust me,I lost 3 carriers and all their fighters,1 battleship,3 destroyers and like 4 transports full of troops to US bombers and fighters in like the 3rd turn.

I’ve been playing pacific for about 3 years,a my first stratagies were too take India for the Japs to win and and to take Hawaii for a good offensive base for my attacks on the Dutch East Indies and Austrailia.It was a great stratagy till my friends and I figured out SBR’s and after that you Bombed pearl then ran away from there as soon as possible.

I really like naval bases, :-DI like to built about 6-12 subs on the west Coast on my first few turns and it’s really nice when I advance my carrier task force from Hawaii to the Marshalls, I like sending some of my subs to Midway to keep the Japs from going around my force and taking Pearl. :-DAnd the Naval base really helps there.

@Haacon:

Hi, I am a fan of the “normal” Axis and Allies and play int since several years. Now a friend of mine has bought the pacific version, we played it a couple of time and I must say, I’m quite dissapointed. Maybe we play it in the wrong way, because we`re used to the other version, but in non of our games the allies had even a chance to win the game.
During the first turn the Japaneese player kills much of the allied fleet and in round two he owns all of the Islands in the south western pacific. The british have enought to do with protecting their capitols, and even if they manage to do so, Japan has 10 to 15 Victory-Points, at the moment the US-Player has a new fleet, that is big enough to be dagerous for the Japaneese ships. From that point on the allied can start to conquer back their territories, but its quite impossible to do so fast enough, to prevent the Japaneese player from winning by victory points.

What goes wrong with us?

The Out of Box rules for AAPacific are heavily slanted in favour of Japan.  Equally capable players will see that Japan will almost always win.  To even our the game, give the Allied players 12 extra IPCs to spend (one time only) at the start of Allies 1.  The Allied player allocates these extra IPCs among India, Australia and US before J1.  This is in addition to the convoy money that is split between Australia and UK.  Finally, have Japan play to 24 IPCs.  Leave everything else the same and you will see that the game is well balanced.

SS

Those rules make yours a completely different game.  So, I don’t really have much to add from a strategy perspective.  It’s not really AAPacific at all.  It is simply an A&A-type game played on the AAPacific map.  Sounds like fun, though.

SS

Once again, Thank you very much !

It is certainly more interesting to add more than 3 players in the game, but I’m having difficulties to find even one (not by PBEM or online I mean).

I’d love to see your cruiser rules when they are ready.

Rafael

@dinosaur:

In the current situation (board is not here where I can see it) I think 2 Japanese fleets may be able to reach Hawaii.  My thinking is that they can’t afford to do this attack because they can’t afford the losses even if they did come out numerically ahead in IPCs.

After turn one Japan has to concentrate on consolidation and maybe picking off straggling Allies units. Japan can afford no signifigant losses of material.

@timerover51:

I like Pacific, and use it in my summer gaming class.  The kids like it, and it does have reasonable US production potential.  I have some house rules posted that you might want to look at since you also have Europe.  It seems like it is easier to get a handle on the game than with Revised, with only the one Axis player.

I’ve never been much for house rules. Most folks have enough trouble keeping the OOB rules straight. The biggest fear with new players is the rule complexity. I have trouble getting the interested to give it a try. I start giving folks addendums to the rulebook no one will ever play with me.  :cry:

I am however grateful to the house rules guys as that is how the OOB rules improve from version to version.  :-)

Europe is easier to teach than Revised.

It would be extrange for China needing a convoy route for transporting supplies from Shangai or Korea (both in the mainland) to chinese capitol at Chongquing (also in the mainland)  :-D

I would agree with Frimmel, bombers and subs the first turn, with a Marine or two, preferably built at Hawaii.  Focus on taking out the Japanese transports whenever you can.  From Turn 2 on, gradually start building more Marines and transports, along with fighters and a carrier or two.  Grabbing New Britain is a big help in forcing the Japanese to look in several directions.  Putting AA guns in at every base is also a good idea, as the Japanese have a hard time building enough aircraft to replace losses.  Basically your aim should be that the Japanese are loosing close to if not more IPCs in units than they will receive each turn.

@timerover51:

If you want to take a look at my modifications, they are posted in the forum under house rules for the Pacific.

Yeah I will thanks,

LT

The Fighter Ace’s strats are top notch. Can’t recommend them highly enough. I suspect that Saburo has forgotten more about A&A Pacific than I know.