1939: World at War

[guest]

with what force?
the one occupied with the Germans?

The Russians had a 30 million man army.  I think an amble force could've been diverted to hold the Japanese - at least until the Germans were pushed back.

I just stoped reading the posts when I came to this one........
30 million man army.......... no.

I agree with Mr. Ghoul. There are a lot of people in this forum who dont know ���� about ww2 (the real stuff). It is not shear size that dozz it (like your girlfriends probably keeps telling you). In the start of the war between russia and germany russia had the worlds greatest army. After only a few weeks a far smaller but more modern german army had reduced the russian army to a joke - and taken over a million (I ���� you not) of prisoners. If not for the UK and for USA Russia would have become the victim of the worlds first modern army!

[Anonymous]

Just a quick point (although this is waaaaay old):

Finland doesn't have any mountainous terrain. It has old, weathered,  rounded hills in the east and the north, and that's it. The advantage was gained from the forests, marshes and the temperature. Russian forces in the north and east were compelled to use certain lines of advance where there were roads and this lead to the decisive Finnish victories where they blocked off whole Russian divisions front and rear along a road and then chewed them up slowly over a period of days as the men froze to death and couldn't protect the miles of flank spread out along the forest edge ('motti' tactics).

The Finns, by contrast were able to even build saunas fairly near to the fighting, allowing the men to rotate, get clean and warm and recuperate for later combat.

Caractacus.

[Anonymous]

with what force?
the one occupied with the Germans?

The Russians had a 30 million man army.  I think an amble force could've been diverted to hold the Japanese - at least until the Germans were pushed back.

I just stoped reading the posts when I came to this one........
30 million man army.......... no.

I agree with Mr. Ghoul. There are a lot of people in this forum who dont know sh*t about ww2 (the real stuff). It is not shear size that dozz it (like your girlfriends probably keeps telling you). In the start of the war between russia and germany russia had the worlds greatest army. After only a few weeks a far smaller but more modern german army had reduced the russian army to a joke - and taken over a million (I sh*t you not) of prisoners. If not for the UK and for USA Russia would have become the victim of the worlds first modern army!

I agree with you when you say that a lot of people in this forum don't know alot about WW2... But no offense to you because I don't really know what you have studied up, but from my research and looking at the figures and statistics, you have something wrong about the russian front.... The Russians did indeed lose 1 Million to prisoners and took casulties but you forget to mention that the Germans took casulties as well... and the germans were not a MODERN ARMY... the german army was not all that the movies make it out to be...i'll take the West front at D-day( it comes off the top of my head) of 44 div. facing the invasion 1 was mech. 1/2 was armor and the remaining42 1/2 div. were foot soldiers and horses (the germans were dependent at that point on 1,250,000 horses) and the standard ww2 inf. rifle for the germans  was the WW1 german rifle which was bolt action! the russians on the otherhand had much better rifles... and tanks...the german tanks couldn't stand up against a freezing russian winter because there equipment all froze... there tanks were made for Western european weather which is less extreme in winter. the russian tanks were built for there winter...the german tanks made it into russia in summer but not many made it out in winter... they also did not have the fuel to win... all the axis combined had only 3% percent of the world's oil, the allies 91%... because they didn't have the trucks they used trains to move the supplies in...  most of the invasion of russia was based on trains and when you use the enemy train lines and they know where they are....the russians guerrillas used scorched earth as a strategy so in reality the germans were not really gaining anything contrary to AaA...so the germans entered russia and were starting very victorious but they blotched up everything: logistics, Supplies, Weapons, and eventually strategy... they russians were producing a lot of equipment in fact using less rescources made more Weapons then the germans...so the russians really won right when the snow fell in Russia...

[cystic crypt]

consider too that the Germans by the end of the war were using their trains to transport Jews to the concentration camps as per Hitler's obsession in preference to supplying their eastern lines.

[guerrilla guy]

very true...