Another off the wall, unproven, untested idea

[ShadowHAwk]

Meanwhile, I do like the idea of Russian fighter to India on round 1.  On round 2 you'd have to pull it back to Europe though.  And I'd be worried about loosing it to a Japanese attack.

Remember, we're stalling the Japanese, not going KJF.  Also, if I can even get 1 extra fighter out of Hawaii I didn't have before, it's worth the maneuver.  No allied forces are pulled out of position except a US Bomber, which isn't exactly a horrible loss to the allies.  Meanwhile, you've altered the entire first two rounds of Japanese movements, forced them to use a new strategy instead of the old tried and proven, probably ended up with at least 1 extra unit in Hawaii, if not the entire fleet.  (You attack light, I make the OOL, Carrier, Submarine, Fighter and hope you only get 1 hit so I can retreat the submarine on the second phase of combat.)

The fighter is there only turn 1 to prevent capture of india so you can put an IC there and keep japan busy for a few extra turns. With the UK and the USSR fighter and 5 inf on it japan will be nuts if he tries it. And if he tries it chance are that he will lose most of his AF no mather what.
The fighter can attack next turn in caucasus or ukraine again so it is not really lost.

[Cmdr Jennifer]

Meanwhile, I do like the idea of Russian fighter to India on round 1.  On round 2 you'd have to pull it back to Europe though.  And I'd be worried about loosing it to a Japanese attack.

Remember, we're stalling the Japanese, not going KJF.  Also, if I can even get 1 extra fighter out of Hawaii I didn't have before, it's worth the maneuver.  No allied forces are pulled out of position except a US Bomber, which isn't exactly a horrible loss to the allies.  Meanwhile, you've altered the entire first two rounds of Japanese movements, forced them to use a new strategy instead of the old tried and proven, probably ended up with at least 1 extra unit in Hawaii, if not the entire fleet.  (You attack light, I make the OOL, Carrier, Submarine, Fighter and hope you only get 1 hit so I can retreat the submarine on the second phase of combat.)

The fighter is there only turn 1 to prevent capture of india so you can put an IC there and keep japan busy for a few extra turns. With the UK and the USSR fighter and 5 inf on it japan will be nuts if he tries it. And if he tries it chance are that he will lose most of his AF no mather what.
The fighter can attack next turn in caucasus or ukraine again so it is not really lost.

I dunno, I wasn't planning on building an IC there.  If I build it then I have to defend it.  If I don't build it, I can do a slow withdrawel from India to prevent loss of units.  (Perhaps even take them into Africa or up through Caucasus)

[ShadowHAwk]

Meanwhile, I do like the idea of Russian fighter to India on round 1.  On round 2 you'd have to pull it back to Europe though.  And I'd be worried about loosing it to a Japanese attack.

Remember, we're stalling the Japanese, not going KJF.  Also, if I can even get 1 extra fighter out of Hawaii I didn't have before, it's worth the maneuver.  No allied forces are pulled out of position except a US Bomber, which isn't exactly a horrible loss to the allies.  Meanwhile, you've altered the entire first two rounds of Japanese movements, forced them to use a new strategy instead of the old tried and proven, probably ended up with at least 1 extra unit in Hawaii, if not the entire fleet.  (You attack light, I make the OOL, Carrier, Submarine, Fighter and hope you only get 1 hit so I can retreat the submarine on the second phase of combat.)

The fighter is there only turn 1 to prevent capture of india so you can put an IC there and keep japan busy for a few extra turns. With the UK and the USSR fighter and 5 inf on it japan will be nuts if he tries it. And if he tries it chance are that he will lose most of his AF no mather what.
The fighter can attack next turn in caucasus or ukraine again so it is not really lost.

I dunno, I wasn't planning on building an IC there.  If I build it then I have to defend it.  If I don't build it, I can do a slow withdrawel from India to prevent loss of units.  (Perhaps even take them into Africa or up through Caucasus)

It depends what your aim is. A IC there will surely slow japan down and make india a nice spot for bombers to harass japan shiping with forcing him to say together.

[Cmdr Jennifer]

Yes, an Industrial Complex in India will slow Japan because they're going to go for it with as much as they can.  It's 15 free IPCs for them, eventually.  Unless you tie up MASSIVE amounts of Allied resources keeping it.  But if you are going to do that, why not just go KJF?

I want to slow the Japanese down, not stop them.  I figure the original plan will force Japan not to make overly aggressive moves in Round 1.  They might forgo Pearl, they might only hit China or walk around Bury and take SFE.  Or they might stock pile FIC/Manch and take China.  I don't know.


But the odds of them suddenly getting India, China and Bury on Round 1 are history.  They don't have the resources for it.  Remember, most of their land unit resources are spread out over the islands. (13 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Armor (I don't count planes as land forces, they're mixed) or 48 IPCs worth out of 69 IPCs total starting LAND forces.)  Suddenly they are confronted with 12 Infantry plus support craft ( fighters (3) and bombers (2) )

[nooob]

how bout this to slow down japan; r1       6inf, 1 fig in bury.
                                                 uk1    sub on sub in salomon(even fight, for 1 rnd then submerge)
                                                           trns to sz west of salomon (new guniea i think)
                                                          ac, des, fig to kill tranny off kwangtung( fighter land in bury)
                                                          tranny to block east indies fleet in boreo(or philipienes which ever im not in front of aboard)
                                                          2 figs west can
                                                          bom to sinkiang or west can(different ranges, both spots have advantages)

                                               the purchases will be dependent on need(uk might need a big stack of inf to prevent losing london)                     
                              so ��� now has slow down issues( icant wait to hear what is said about this one)