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« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2006, 10:10:11 am »
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Im just saying that if you are playing me, the forces in FIC would be hit.


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« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2006, 10:40:35 am »
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It's definitely a good way to make Japan sweat, no doubt about that. Is that standard for you or do you do it based on what Germany does?
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« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2006, 03:15:02 pm »
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Im just saying that if you are playing me, the forces in FIC would be hit.

I've thought of doing this too, but that means Germany gets some juicy IPCs out of Africa.  sad
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« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2006, 03:55:44 pm »
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The thought of attacking FIC had crossed my mind as well. But I determined it was mostly situational. If Gemany gets thumped in Egypt or I'm bringing the Russian hammer to Japan it's worth a shot, but otherwise it's just sacrificing a lot of irreplaceable units early for an average payout. Japan can live with only 5 fighters.
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« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2006, 06:04:10 pm »
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Whether or not you do Pearl depends on what USSR and UK did.

If USSR and UK are attempting to hold the Asian coast (buildup in India and Burytia), Japan should probably use its air to blow up Burytia and land in position to hit India or a US fleet advance on Japan 2.

If the UK unified its fleet, that's another thing to consider.

If there is an industrial complex in India and/or Ssinkiang, that's something yet again.

etc. etc.

Plus, remember you can do Pearl with just fighters, bomber, and naval fodder, as well as the usual kitchen sink attack.
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« Reply #35 on: July 02, 2006, 05:50:40 pm »
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In the fleet mass you mention Tri, there is no Japan IC on J1.  Taht in itself is a limit to Japan in Asia.

Now... if Bury does not fall, US adds a bomber to the attack.  If China holds (quite possible with the AF diversion to Bury and with the UK FIG flown in for defense), now you have 3 FIG, 1 BOM, 1 AC, 1 SUB.

The worse situation for Japan though is not a US 1 counter, it is US2. 

As for Egypt, Germany gains some ground briefly, but with a massed Allied landing in north Africa such as is being done to me in my current game, Germany's gains will be minor and short lived; in addition to Germany not being able to make massive progress against Russia even with Russian forces diverted to Asia due to the growing threat to Southern.
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« Reply #36 on: July 02, 2006, 06:02:44 pm »
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In the fleet mass you mention Tri, there is no Japan IC on J1.  Taht in itself is a limit to Japan in Asia.

You shouldn't be building ICs on J1 if you suspect that much initial pressure against Japan. You still have plenty of troops to offload if you build 3 tran 2 inf on J1

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Now... if Bury does not fall, US adds a bomber to the attack.  If China holds (quite possible with the AF diversion to Bury and with the UK FIG flown in for defense), now you have 3 FIG, 1 BOM, 1 AC, 1 SUB.

If the UK fig is flown in for defense, then Bury is skipped. If the UK fig is not flown in, this situation only occurs 20% of the time. Even when this situation occurs, that means I might have to lose a carrier, destroyer, and sub, and perhaps 1 tran, while the US airforce is reduced to 1 fighter in Eastern US. I could even be willing to lose 1 fighter to take Buryatia, which extends the chances of taking Buryatia up to 92%.

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The worse situation for Japan though is not a US 1 counter, it is US2. 

As for Egypt, Germany gains some ground briefly, but with a massed Allied landing in north Africa such as is being done to me in my current game, Germany's gains will be minor and short lived; in addition to Germany not being able to make massive progress against Russia even with Russian forces diverted to Asia due to the growing threat to Southern.

These are mutually exclusive events. The US cannot buy enough on US2 both provide meaningful pressure on Japan and get into Africa with massive forces.

What is being done to you is interesting, but has its own set of limitations. It requires the UK fleet to buy its own defense as it operates in the north, and the US can never help a 1-2 punch into the capital itself via navy. That first part, requiring the UK to buy its own defense, is impractical when facing a med/baltic naval link, which I think is the one main reason why I think it won't work.
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« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2006, 06:26:53 am »
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If the UK fig is flown in for defense, then Bury is skipped.

Thanks, Tri- this is the crux of what I was trying to say. I even put it in bold in my last post to make it clear grin

But I'll do it again because it's fun.

Russian and British choices dictate whether Japan can even think about Buryatia or not. 

Buryatia is only possible if the right conditions exist. An extra British fighter in China means the right conditions do not exist. And if you do choose to do it, you build accordingly (3 transports), which deals with the U.S. threat.

To every question of "well what if _______ and what if________",  I answer- don't attack Buryatia.

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