Retreat before dice are rolled. Is that allowed?

@krieghund thanks!

all land units retreat to a single adjacent territory, while the air units remains in the territory.

The only way you did something illegal is if you retreated your air units somewhere, and then moved them to S. Italy.

Thanks Witt.

It came up during a strategy meeting our group had. I said yes of course you can, but then looked deeper into the situation and thought, there must be a consequences on a fall back using a surprise attack.

But good to know an answer.

BH

Theres no mechanic provided in the game, but a simple pad and paper can track how many units come from each territory.  In the event of a retreat, you cannot retreat more units than came from that territory when declaring an attack.

Of course, thats just another layer of complexity and time required before conducting combat.  But that seems the most logical rule if you don’t care for the gamey version written in the rules where you can send 1 Infantry in from one side and send 10 infantry from another and effectively move the 10 infantry two spaces.

@surfer and then the dice lords decide to poop on you in virtually every other battle in the game. I have never witnessed such consistently bad luck from the server in my entire play history. One bad outcome can usually be overcome, but the avalanche of unfairness kept coming and coming.

yes to 1 2 4 and no to 3

@SalothSar:

@calvinhobbesliker:

Let’s see, Krieghund has deputized me to clarify rules questions while he was gone. I don’t think he did the same for you.

Salothsar, my posts are more adult-like than yours.

Sure he has

I could ask either Krieghund or gamerman01(who was also deputized) to confirm. Additionally, you can look at the G40 FAQ thread to see how many rules questions I have answered.

@molinar13:

Seeing that Axis and Allies does not use rules such as terrain effects, experience of troops, or weather effects I consider the luck of the dice to compensate for these items.

I tend to view it the same way. Axis and Allies does not take a lot of things into account… including scouting and supplying your armies. I always viewed these things as being incorporated into the game, sort of expected and assumed.

For example, many times neither side knew where the other’s forces were. They needed scouts and intelligence organizations to figure it out. There is no “fog of war” in a boardgame. You can see everything that everyone does.
Also armies/navies needed to be supplied. Axis and Allies does not require you to maintain a merchant fleet or a force of supply trucks. It is sort of given and expected.

Now these things do not directly relate to your die rolling, but it shows that not everything needs to be accounted for by the player… including the fixing of his odds. Dropping a (fair) die and letting it bounce and roll is entirely fair and just. It is random, and that is the purpose.

Artificially compensating for losses due to bad rolling just seems like diluted cheating to me.