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« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2015, 10:06:18 am »
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« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2015, 10:11:58 am »
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I bought 2 1941 set to have more pieces because its was a lil limited.

Should I buy a second D-Day set though?

I guess it depends on how much of a sculpt enthusiast you are.  I certainly had no regrets about getting my second copy of D-Day, even if it didn't turn out to have any blonde UK pieces, because both printings contain a unit found in no other A&A game: the German blockhouse unit.  It has no official use in any other A&A game, but it's nice to have just from a collector's point of view, and it can be put to unofficial use with house rules if one cares to do so.  Because it's so specialized, however, and only exists for one country, two copies is the highest I'm planning to go.  The 1941 game is another story; I have quite a few of those, because its unique sculpts are much more diversified.
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« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2015, 02:08:36 pm »
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I bought 2 1941 set to have more pieces because its was a lil limited.

Should I buy a second D-Day set though?

I guess it depends on how much of a sculpt enthusiast you are.  I certainly had no regrets about getting my second copy of D-Day, even if it didn't turn out to have any blonde UK pieces, because both printings contain a unit found in no other A&A game: the German blockhouse unit.  It has no official use in any other A&A game, but it's nice to have just from a collector's point of view, and it can be put to unofficial use with house rules if one cares to do so.  Because it's so specialized, however, and only exists for one country, two copies is the highest I'm planning to go.  The 1941 game is another story; I have quite a few of those, because its unique sculpts are much more diversified.

It is kind like the unique American and German mechs, in the Battle of the Bulge game. You can't them in any other game. smiley
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« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2015, 01:11:04 am »
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Actually I think they might still do a A&A '39 game one day; so Global 39. I own the Variant global '39 by HBG, but as that map is made of vinyl and even larger than A&A global, it's very difficult to fit onto a random table. If they were to do a '39 game one day similar to global (i.e. split up into Europe and Pacific) and adding in terrain and true French and Polish armies, I'd certainly go for it! Still somewhat more complexity wouldn't hurt either; what often happens in my games is that the Allies invade straight into Western Germany. For terrain, supply, tactical and air support reasons this was never an option, but is yet often the chosen Allied invasion site foregoing France altogether. I'd also like to see Russian fleets in the Black sea and off the coast of Vladivostok added (to the Pacific side of the map). Finally some more realistic convoy raiding rules!
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« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2015, 03:05:42 am »
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Well I'm not Hasbro or WoTC, Here's my two cents.

We just had a whole bunch of new releases for A&A currently. Larry Harris is looking at other projects beyond A&A, Hasbro which owns WOTC, which owns Avalon (WOTC) doesn't care about A&A. Card games are cheap and a milk cow which is WOTC's cash cow which is Hasbro the toy company's cash cow.

Not to be negative, and as an A&A fan from the beginning, A&A is done for a while or altogether unless someone else picks up the A&A franchise and takes it in a new direction.

D-Day as new edition IMO will NEVER Happen.

At best expect WWII Risk!. 1941 is a flop!  If you think I'm being negative look at the You tube reviews of the latest reviews of A&A games in current production. Better yet ask your local brick and mortar game store about A&A.

I love this game but dark DAYS ARE AHEAD.
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« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2015, 05:53:57 am »
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Well I'm not Hasbro or WoTC, Here's my two cents.

We just had a whole bunch of new releases for A&A currently. Larry Harris is looking at other projects beyond A&A, Hasbro which owns WOTC, which owns Avalon (WOTC) doesn't care about A&A. Card games are cheap and a milk cow which is WOTC's cash cow which is Hasbro the toy company's cash cow.

Not to be negative, and as an A&A fan from the beginning, A&A is done for a while or altogether unless someone else picks up the A&A franchise and takes it in a new direction.

D-Day as new edition IMO will NEVER Happen.

At best expect WWII Risk!. 1941 is a flop!  If you think I'm being negative look at the You tube reviews of the latest reviews of A&A games in current production. Better yet ask your local brick and mortar game store about A&A.

I love this game but dark DAYS ARE AHEAD.

As for '41, with the addition of the extra infantry in Russia and the transport and destroyer off the coast of the US, I actually think it's quite balanced. It is what it is; a quick gateway game to more "advanced" editions of A&A which can actually be finished within a time frame which is acceptable for a regular gamer. Taking that into account I actually enjoy it, although in practice, whenever I play A&A it's Europe or Global '40 as I actually enjoy a higher level of complexity and realism (of course in so far as that can be spoken of  with regard to A&A). It's just that I'm a sucker for miniatures rather than cardboard or blocks....
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« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2015, 07:43:06 am »
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It's just that I'm a sucker for miniatures rather than cardboard or blocks....

A point about which I don't imagine you'll ever hear any criticism from toblerone or John or me.  Expressions of enthusiastic approval would be more likely. Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2015, 09:31:22 am »
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It's just that I'm a sucker for miniatures rather than cardboard or blocks....

A point about which I don't imagine you'll ever hear any criticism from toblerone or John or me.  Expressions of enthusiastic approval would be more likely. Smiley

No not from me! The more miniatures the merrier! grin
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« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2015, 02:06:40 pm »
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Love the minis from 1941. As for me 1941 was basically an "Expansion pack" I have one copy I leaved sealed in the plastic and one for everyday use as well as extra OOB minis from HBG. I call 1941 a flop because it along with 1914 has received some reviews in the gaming world that were not favorable. 1941 is go for teaching people to play BUT I think Classic or Revised does just as well or better. Additionally when I've used 41 to teach I had real chips and paper or poker chips for money.

Now I don't think this was a terrible game but it's at a price point where for a few dollars more you could just buy 42SE. When it first came out you could buy surplus Spring 42 for around $20 and with either purchase receive a much value per dollar.

None of that mattered I own two to five copies of each A&A Edition except D-Day, AA50 and Bulge which I only have one each. Never had AAE40.1 or AAGC.

I'm not trying to be harsh I just think A&A is about to go on hiatus for a bit and I think D-Day is one of those classics we won't see again as a second edition.
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« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2015, 02:18:13 pm »
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Now that I think of it I think I will be buying a D-Day game that will remain in the "sealed games wing" of my man-cave/office. LOL!
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« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2015, 10:46:35 pm »
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Love the minis from 1941. As for me 1941 was basically an "Expansion pack" I have one copy I leaved sealed in the plastic and one for everyday use as well as extra OOB minis from HBG. I call 1941 a flop because it along with 1914 has received some reviews in the gaming world that were not favorable. 1941 is go for teaching people to play BUT I think Classic or Revised does just as well or better. Additionally when I've used 41 to teach I had real chips and paper or poker chips for money.

Now I don't think this was a terrible game but it's at a price point where for a few dollars more you could just buy 42SE. When it first came out you could buy surplus Spring 42 for around $20 and with either purchase receive a much value per dollar.

None of that mattered I own two to five copies of each A&A Edition except D-Day, AA50 and Bulge which I only have one each. Never had AAE40.1 or AAGC.

I'm not trying to be harsh I just think A&A is about to go on hiatus for a bit and I think D-Day is one of those classics we won't see again as a second edition.

Tolerone, I do think your correct about it, but it is so fresh for me, because I didn't grow up with it like a lot of you, that everything is exciting for me, LOL.

I just started collecting, a little over a year ago, so I'm still quite new to the experience, but yet it came out when I was in high school, but some how I didn't hear about till 2009, when I bought the Anniversary edition.

I never played it, till fall of 2013, because I couldn't get anyone in my home town to play a strategy board game.

It is still that way now. The only time I can play is if I travel and driving is not as fun as it used to be for me, so I mainly collect and now paint, which I thought I never would.

Never say never, because it will bite you every time, LOL. grin

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« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2017, 06:04:02 pm »
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Pre-order at Amazon May 2017

https://www.amazon.com/Avalon-Hill-C3400000-Allies-D-Day/dp/B01MTJ8U17/ref=dp_ob_title_toy
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« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2017, 08:39:08 am »
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That looks like a reprint and not a new edition.
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« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2017, 10:20:29 am »
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Notice that the AH logo is different than all the others.  I dont know if that makes a difference on whether it means re-print or maybe 2nd Edition?
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« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2017, 12:58:38 pm »
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Notice that the AH logo is different than all the others. 

They relaunched their appearance lately.
The logo is identical to the new one on their website: http://avalonhill.wizards.com/
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