German Subs in the Atlantic

This game has no mechs,pripet marshes or Italy player.I suspect you’re discussing the 42 version of Global.

@Drill:

My dad had a destroyer and a bomber, and attacked my 2 subs.

I got a hit right away, so he took off his destroyer.  So the battle is over, right?  :)

The destroyer and the bomber will still perform their attacking rolls… since there’s a destroyer it negates the subs’s first strike ability and allow both destroyer and bomber to perform their attack. Then the battle will be over since the bomber can’t attack the subs by itself.

its ALL counter-intuitive because generally speaking, if the attacking force doesn’t want to kill subs, they wouldn’t aim at subs  :lol:  I can’t think of any tactics that would force the attacker to dispatch the subs before the transports, but thems the rules.

@MrMalachiCrunch:

I believe Hobbes meant SEu.

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Re:  Japan invasion of US

Early on, you concentrate on infrastructure (i.e. transport escorts and transports) for Atlantic.

If Japan drops to Alaska, they’re screwing with their early progress in Asia, so you react then.

Around R3, you can overbuild on infantry a bit and do as follows:

Post a few infantry in West Canada.  Build infantry at East US.  Build tanks at West US.  Keep a couple extra infantry in East Canada.

Now the West Canada infantry stay where they are, say 2-3.  Infantry at East US move to East Canada for Algeria drop.  West US tanks move to East Canada for Algeria drop.  If Japan drops to Alaska, West Canada infantry and West US tanks move to Alaska to reclaim, and use the extra East Canada infantry for the Algeria drop and/or to replace the West Canada infantry.

If Japan moves in in force, that’s great.  They totally screwed their progress in Asia, and you can see the thing coming a mile away, so you can easily prepare for it.

we play with advantages on the 42 board, these advantages below created a game where German Subs where very effective and played a bigger role in the game.  we made our own collection from we found in house rules and from the previous A&A Revised game. 
we choose advantages by row…. Row 1
Russia - Russian Winter • must declare During Combat Movement. Inf. Attack on 2 & Defend On 3 (In 1st Cycles) WINTER lasts till start of next Russia’s next turn) WINTER ONLY AFFECTS FOLLOWING TERRITORIES: Russia, Evenki N.O., Novosibirsk, Kazakh, Caucasus, W. Russia, Archangel, Belo Russia, Karelia
Germany - UBoat interdiction • during collect income phase for UK and USA -1 IPC for every 2 subs Outside Of SZ 5 & 16
Britain - Radar • Your Anti-Aircraft Guns In Tan Territories Hit Air Units On a 2.
Japan - Tokyo Express • Each Of Your Destroyers May Act As A Transport For 1 Infantry (Follow Rules Of Transports) DD acting as Transports Retain Anti Sub Abilities & get 1 Att. role on 1st Cycle Only if combat occurs in SZ of amphibious assault
USA - Island Bases • When Moving Air Units - US May Treat Island Groups As Part Of SZ’s Containing Them.  ie. Ftr Can Fly From Hawaii To E. Indies (If Owned)

point is i think a good way to up the factors of certain units in the game is with a good set of advantages but they must be balanced as to not give any side to much of an advantage

@Veqryn:

can you move a submarine into (not through) and stop in an enemy controlled sea zone during combat move, and choose not attack?

No, you can’t.  However, in AA50 and AA42 if there are no enemy destroyers you can submerge at the beginning of the first combat round, effectively avoiding combat.

@Veqryn:

can you move a submarine into (not through) and stop in an enemy controlled sea zone during Non-combat move?

In Revised, no.  In AA50 and AA42, yes, regardless of the presence of enemy destroyers.

Maybe there is a small contradiction here.  Perhaps the rule on page 30 should say “anytime it would otherwise fire”.  Fire is simultaneous, whereas the actual dice rolling is not.