12L G40 A3.9 NT seththenewb(axis) vs questioneer(allies)

[seththenewb]

tac bombers can't hit ICs, I'll be adding 4 ipcs to Germany so I can repair the damage without incurring a cost.

[questioneer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.6

Game History

    Round :6

        Combat Move - British
            Giving bonus movement to units
            1 armour moved from Algeria to 92 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Algeria to 92 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt
            1 armour moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt
            1 fighter moved from Syria to Egypt
            4 armour moved from Ethiopia to Egypt
            1 battleship moved from 80 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Iraq
            1 mech_infantry moved from Syria to Northwest Persia
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Syria to Iraq
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Persia to Iraq
            2 fighters moved from India to Iraq
            1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Iraq
            2 infantry moved from India to West India
            4 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Ukraine
            4 fighters moved from Russia to Ukraine
            1 bomber moved from Russia to Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 104 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 104 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone

        Combat - British
            Battle in Ukraine
                British attack with 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 4 mech_infantrys
                Germans defend with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 factory_minor and 4 infantry
                 retreated to Ukraine
                Germans win with 1 armour and 2 artilleries remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
                Casualties for Germans: 4 infantry
                Casualties for British: 4 mech_infantrys
            Battle in Egypt
                British attack with 5 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Italians defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 6 infantry
                Italians win with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -31
                Casualties for British: 5 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 4 infantry
            Recording Battle Statistics

        Non Combat Move - British
            4 fighters moved from Ukraine to Russia
            1 bomber moved from Ukraine to Russia

        Place Units - British
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in United Kingdom
            1 destroyer placed in 110 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers placed in 109 Sea Zone

        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs total

[questioneer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.6

Game History

    Round :6

        Place Units - UK_Pacific
            2 infantry placed in India

        Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 3 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 3 PUs total
                Some units change owners in territory India

[questioneer]

tac bombers can't hit ICs, I'll be adding 4 ipcs to Germany so I can repair the damage without incurring a cost.

Right, that's a bug then that we need to report- it allowed me to do it.  I forgot it can't.

[seththenewb]

Those were some rough rolls for the allies. You had pretty decent odds in both. I knew you did in Egypt, but figured you'd try for the Italian armor instead. And if not, I could retake it from Trj and eventually reinforce with Germans once they got a navy in the water. Ukraine I didn't see, which is weird because I saw the possibility of trying that move in Belarus & W.Ukraine. I think I was going to plop some air there, but decided to stage them in Greece instead.

[questioneer]

Tough game.  Can't hold on too much longer.  Allies just can't seem to gain economic equality and position.  Stretched too thin in too many places.

[questioneer]

Those were some rough rolls for the allies. You had pretty decent odds in both. I knew you did in Egypt, but figured you'd try for the Italian armor instead. And if not, I could retake it from Trj and eventually reinforce with Germans once they got a navy in the water. Ukraine I didn't see, which is weird because I saw the possibility of trying that move in Belarus & W.Ukraine. I think I was going to plop some air there, but decided to stage them in Greece instead.

Yeah, Egypt was a breaker.  Really bad rolls- should've had good odds.  The point was to make you retake it and have to commit your units to it.  Axis have some nice flexibility and Allies can't gain equality in $$$ and are running out of time.

I'll probably play a couple more games with Allies straight up to be sure, but I'm thinking I can't even play with Allies w/o at least $12-$15 on my side.  They just don't have enough punch in the long run.

I did do Tobruk instead of Taranto though which is huge.  Taranto is so much better in the long run.  I would be sitting on a stacked Egypt right now.

[seththenewb]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.6

Game History

    Round :6

        Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 5 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

        Combat Move - Italians
            Giving bonus movement to units
            2 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 96 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Greece to 95 Sea Zone

        Combat - Italians
            Battle in 96 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                 retreated to 96 Sea Zone
                British win with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
                Casualties for Italians: 1 submarine
            Battle in Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                Italians attack with 2 armour and 1 infantry
                French defend with 1 infantry
                Italians win, taking Anglo Egyptian Sudan from British with 2 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for French: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
                Italians win with 2 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for French: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in 95 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                Italians win with 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Italians: 1 submarine
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
                Italians win with 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Italians: 1 submarine
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
            Recording Battle Statistics

        Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 fighter moved from 96 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 bomber moved from 95 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 fighter moved from 95 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 artillery moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 artillery moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan

        Place Units - Italians
            3 infantry placed in Egypt
            2 infantry placed in Southern Italy
            1 submarine placed in 97 Sea Zone

        Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 15 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 15 PUs total
            Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 20 PUs

[seththenewb]

German edit to $$$

[seththenewb]

Yeah, my play usually tends to gravitate towards gaining economic parity/dominance. I might be somewhat aggressive to start, but it's a safe aggressive if that makes sense. I feel that due to fewer countries sharing the wealth and positioning that the axis have the advantage once they can collect within 10-15 of the allies. US's builds are usually a couple turns away from making an impact. Britain is spread out and vulnerable to having their empire crumble if the axis play smart and catch some breaks. China & Anzacs can be broken if you stop them from collecting early. And lastly France is almost a non-entity after rd2.

[questioneer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.6

Game History

    Round :6

        Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 2 armour and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

        Combat Move - ANZAC
            Giving bonus movement to units
            1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 30 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 49 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 30 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 49 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 26 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 30 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 49 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 26 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 30 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 49 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Caucasus

        Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in 46 Sea Zone
                ANZAC attack with 2 destroyers and 2 fighters
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                ANZAC win with 1 destroyer and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 destroyer
                ANZAC win with 1 destroyer and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Caucasus
                ANZAC attack with 1 fighter
                Germans defend with 1 armour
                Germans win with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is -10
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 fighter
            Recording Battle Statistics

        Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 46 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 46 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone

        Place Units - ANZAC
            2 armour and 1 infantry placed in New South Wales

        Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs total
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 15 PUs

[seththenewb]

I'll probably play a couple more games with Allies straight up to be sure, but I'm thinking I can't even play with Allies w/o at least $12-$15 on my side.� They just don't have enough punch in the long run.

Not too long ago you were saying that the game was balanced.   Can't you admit some of this game was due to stellar A&A play. Or is it UM law that you can't compliment a Buckeye. I can take the allies next if you want, with/without bid.

[questioneer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.6

Game History

    Round :6

        Combat Move - French
            Giving bonus movement to units

        Non Combat Move - French

        Turn Complete - French

[questioneer]

I'll probably play a couple more games with Allies straight up to be sure, but I'm thinking I can't even play with Allies w/o at least $12-$15 on my side.� They just don't have enough punch in the long run.

Not too long ago you were saying that the game was balanced.   Can't you admit some of this game was due to stellar A&A play. Or is it UM law that you can't compliment a Buckeye. I can take the allies next if you want, with/without bid.

"Tis better to have failed at the University of Michigan, then to have graduated from Ohio $!@!&" is the old saying that goes around up here.

Seriously, though, you play well but everyone here is really at the beginning stages of breaking this game in.  Besides, Allies should be played by the better players b/c of its difficulty, correct???

Most of my time has been playing the Allies.  So I'm not very good at the Axis yet, though I'm working through the typical gambit games J1, J2, G1, G2 etc.  I'm getting there.  I'll need 3-4 more games as Axis before I'm really used to it.

Also, I didn't do Taranto this game, which I know makes a big difference unless you really get diced there too.  That's the thing, Allies seem to need the dice to go well to hold it together.  They just don't have enough material it seems.  Anyway, I'll truly be convinced its an Axis advantaged game after a couple more tries.  I still wanna test some things out.

I am learning though...anyway carry on.

[seththenewb]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.6

Game History

    Round :7

        Purchase Units - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Germans player Changing PUs for Germans from 80 to 84
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Germans repair 4 damage on 4 factory_minors; Remaining resources: 80 PUs;
            Germans buy 1 armour, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

        Combat Move - Germans
            Giving bonus movement to units
            1 armour moved from Caucasus to Kazakhstan
                  Germans take Kazakhstan from Russians
            1 armour moved from Kazakhstan to Samara
                  Germans take Samara from Russians
            2 infantry moved from Rostov to Tambov
            2 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Rostov to Volgograd
            3 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Archangel
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Smolensk
            1 bomber moved from Greece to Tambov
            1 bomber moved from Greece to Bryansk
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Rostov to Northwest Persia
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Rostov to Bryansk
            1 armour moved from Ukraine to Volgograd
            1 bomber moved from Greece to Northwest Persia
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Greece to 98 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Greece to Tambov
            1 artillery moved from Belarus to Archangel
            2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
            2 armour moved from Rostov to Volgograd

        Combat - Germans
            Battle in Smolensk
                Germans attack with 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Smolensk from Russians with 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Germans win with 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in 98 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 transport
                Germans win with 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for British: 1 transport
                Germans win with 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for British: 1 transport
            Battle in Northwest Persia
                Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 mech_infantrys
                British defend with 1 mech_infantry
                Germans win, taking Northwest Persia from British with 1 bomber and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for British: 1 mech_infantry
                Germans win with 1 bomber and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for British: 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in Bryansk
                Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Germans win, taking Bryansk from Russians with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Germans win with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Battle in Archangel
                Germans attack with 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
                Germans win, taking Archangel from Russians with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
                Germans win with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in Tambov
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Tambov from Russians with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Germans win with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Volgograd
                Germans attack with 3 armour and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 armour and 1 factory_minor
                Germans win, taking Volgograd from Russians with 3 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 armour
                Germans win with 3 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 armour
            Recording Battle Statistics

        Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 bomber moved from Tambov to Greece
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Archangel to Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Tambov to Ukraine
            1 bomber moved from Bryansk to Greece
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Smolensk to Novgorod
            1 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
            2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine
            5 artilleries moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
            7 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Poland to Western Ukraine
            6 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
            3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            4 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 97 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to Greece
            1 bomber moved from Northwest Persia to Greece
            1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 submarines and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from France to Western Germany

        Place Units - Germans
            1 carrier and 2 destroyers placed in 97 Sea Zone
            3 infantry placed in Ukraine
            3 infantry placed in Novgorod
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Germany
            2 fighters placed in Western Germany

        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 63 PUs; end with 63 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs
            Objective Germans 6 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 70 PUs
            Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 75 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 85 PUs