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Author Topic: New HBG Airfield and Naval Base Markers  (Read 868 times)
Tall Paul
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« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2012, 10:33:24 am »
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KNP,

Yep, and if players decide to use the "House Rule" that the Illustrious Leader and I have been promoting that "Paratroop Drops must begin from a country with an Airbase" there might be a need for even more of them.

Then you should consider the Airbases you might add for non-combat Air Transport movement of troops around the map.

There are some NEW IDEAS being considered for producing these. Stay tuned.

"Tall Paul"
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« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2012, 10:53:17 am »
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I JUST ORDERED 40 OF EACH !!!

I also think i just peed myself...



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« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2012, 11:07:36 am »
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If you have the naval bases and air bases bigger an in a 3d model your talkig about taking up a lot of space for units that won't move. I think having the thicker plastic pieces like this is the better idea!!  I don't like the cardboard, and a 3d piece would be cool but the games are already crowded!
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« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2012, 12:48:53 pm »
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Tigerman,

Anyone wanting the smaller "symbols" for Air and Naval Bases can use either the
HBG or LITKO ones.

However, I prefer Good-Looking, 3-dimentional units that closer resemble
Air and/or Naval Bases
. These won't take up "a lot of space" and should be exactly the same size as the ones from the A&A-Guadalcanal game.

Also, by making Airbases the same size as the ones from the A&A-Guadalcanal game
HBG could market them as an improvement to that game,...
 
OR for use in any A&A game
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For use in "New A&A-type games" such as an enlarged, improved "Gualdalcanal Game"
I envision having 3 or 4 different Airbase "levels":

1. Short grass runway..........Small number of Fighters ONLY
2. Longer surfaced runways..Larger number of Fighters and Bombers
3. Fully enlarged Air Base.....Maximum number of Fighters and Bombers with
....................................... ..an increased defensive factor(AAA Guns)
.

4. Seaplane Base..................for basing Seaplanes that HBG
....................................... .....may one day produce
.

What do Ya'll Think?

"Tall Paul"
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« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2012, 06:23:25 am »
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Tall Paul,

  I understand what your saying an I agree, but most people do not have the table space that we have! On a map that is 35x60 or 36x72 the games are really crowded. Airbases especially can have units placed on top of them in initial setup and crowded zones but a 3G model would add to the crowd!!  This is just my thought on the issue.

  If HBG makes these 3d bases im definetly buying sOme!
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« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2012, 08:29:42 am »
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Tigerman,

The Air Bases that I'm talking about would be 95% flat. The only 3-D part of it would be the House (hanger/warehouse) glued to the top of one end of it just like in the pics of my earlier efforts, below.

The most interesting aspect of this would be the different graphics that could be produced to represent different "levels" of Air Bases. I was expecting that a player might place his aircraft on top of these Airbases and thus minimize the amount of room needed.

These would be inexspensive to produce and I believe that most, if not all players would buy these for their A&A games.


If HBG makes these 3d bases im definetly buying sOme!

I'm ready to buy 50 Air Bases and 50 Naval Bases RIGHT NOW!

"Tall Paul"

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« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2012, 04:47:46 pm »
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Tall Paul, i think they look great, on a huge custom made map im sure they would work great too. But on the OOB G40 map there is not room for these.

Btw the bases are EXCELLENT!!!!!

So much better than the cardboard Wink
Great work HBG
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« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2012, 08:38:33 am »
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"Crust",

If you prefer the smaller "Symbols" for you Air Bases, that's great! Buy them.

I had stated earlier that it is expected that units would be placed ON TOP of the runway area of the Air Base leaving the House (Hanger) the ONLY thing not covered. This way, it would be EVEN SMALLER than the "symbols" you favor.

Think About It!

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« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2012, 09:05:23 am »
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Tall Paul,

I think these look really cool and I'm thinking of putting something like this together for my '39 map. Where did you get the "houses"; monopoly?

Anyway, a game is planned for this weekend. I may try experimenting with your airfield idea if I can get the new Italians, Marines and GHQ stuff painted in time. I did get the Litco airfield markers from HBG and they look good (a lot better than the OOB pieces) but, like you, I prefer 3D stuff if I can make it/get it.

Do you have any suggestions for fortifications? I make my own now, but I'm not completely satisfied.
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« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2012, 01:11:36 pm »
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Koba,

I got the "houses" from HBG. I believe they originate from the "Monopoly" game.

I got the "Cardboard Airfield Marker" from HBG also. they originate from the "A&A-Guadalcanal" game. I'm POSITIVE that these are currently OUT-OF-STOCK.

I've been speaking with the "Coach" for about a week and he thinks that he should be able to make these Air Bases like I've been describing above. He is somewhat enthusiastic about them and believes he might make a small run of them with a target price of approximately .50 each. Whether they are cardboard or hard plastic(like his new AB symbol) doesn't matter to me,...as long as they are rectangular and the same size as the AB's from the Guadalcanal game.

IMHO, I believe these would be very useful to ANY & ALL A&A gamers, whatever particular game they were currently playing.

"Stay tuned"

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« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2012, 05:57:14 pm »
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Koba,

As far as Fortifications,...HBG list the ones from the
"D-Day"-A&A game on their site, but I think they're out-of-stock.

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I always believed that SOMEONE should make a Set of 3-D Fortifications, Air Bases, Naval Bases, Major and Minor Industrial Complexes, etc. IMHO a set like this would be a GUARANTEED SUCCESS from the very start and sell like hotcakes.

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I think most players also hate the cardboard cr** that we get in the games. So far I've replaced my Major Industrial Complexes(see pic below) and the Minor I.C.'s "are in the works".

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« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2012, 06:03:02 pm »
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The Minor Industrial Complexes will look a lot like the one on the right of this pic.

I hope these pics might inspire you a little toward making/painting your Air bases and whatever else you want.

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« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2012, 08:15:00 am »
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Thanks Tall Paul, this stuff looks really good.

I'm going to experiment with fortifications before game time this weekend. I'm thinking about making some small scenes with tank obstacles, bunkers, wire, etc. sort of along the lines of your airbases.

I'll be following HBG close to see what they come up with.
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« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2012, 05:30:00 pm »
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the symbols i like as you call them paul work great because you can put everything on top of them lol, your argument makes no sense,

if someone were to make a much larger version of OOB G40 then i would actually prefer pieces for bases
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« Reply #29 on: April 11, 2012, 06:08:41 pm »
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"Crust",

I'm glad you're happy in whatever you choose. Truly, I am.

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But it's completely unrealistic for you to say that you can put units on top of your FLAT Air Base "symbols" that are approximately 1/2" square...........

But that I can't put units on top of my FLAT Air Bases that are approximately
1/2" x 1 1/2".

I mean, FLAT is FLAT. Is it not? The only thing that isn't FLAT on my Air Bases is the House (hanger), and it is tiny. Please refer again to the pics of my FLAT prototype Air Base(pic below).

I have no problem with anyone voicing their opinions, in fact I encourage this. And I'm not trying to change your opinion here. But look at the facts and have a realistic opinion based on the facts.

Respectfully,
"Tall Paul"
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