How much would the game change if.......

[techroll42]

Still don't see why people rag the cruiser. It makes an excellent addition to any navy and great pair up with destroyer.

I think what people complain about is cruisers don't have "special abilities" and for their cost they aren't efficient at all in combat.

The special ability is a cheaper version of offshore bombardment, lol. But, I can understand the "complaint", but do not agree with it. I've seen the AA idea floating around, though I can see the obvious follies in it.

Like...?

(What obvious follies?)

[empireman]

think about how the game would change if
Inf cost is 1
Arty and mech cost 2
Tanks cost 4
Fighters 6
Tac 7
Bomber 8
AA gun 3
Mnior IC 8
Major ic 20
Subs 4
dds 6
Cruisers 8
BBs 13
Carriers 10
transport 5
Air base 7
Navy Base 7

We would see MASSIVE armies

[SS]

Now were talking!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[empireman]

Now were talking!!!!!!!!!!!!!

were talking 100 Infantry is like 20 infantry!!!!!

Man russia would go crazy!!!!

[SS]

In my game Russia does only pay 2 icp's but there is a limit of 20 infrantry per buy (turn) and a limit per country so that way it forces you to buy more non inf land units plus also have double the money for each country.

[techroll42]

think about how the game would change if
Inf cost is 1
Arty and mech cost 2
Tanks cost 4
Fighters 6
Tac 7
Bomber 8
AA gun 3
Mnior IC 8
Major ic 20
Subs 4
dds 6
Cruisers 8
BBs 13
Carriers 10
transport 5
Air base 7
Navy Base 7

We would see MASSIVE armies

Awesome alert!

[Vance]

This would reduce the problem of getting diced.  The more dice that are rolled, the less likely extreme results become.  

But to keep the proportions of units that are built to the same proportion as in the regular game, you could just get 2 of any unit for the regular price (e.g. you get 2 infantry for $3, 2 tanks for $6, 2 battleships for $20 etc).

Bases and ICs cost the regular price but minors can mobilize 6 units and majors can mobilize 20.  AA fire at up to 6 planes.

You'd also need a rule that movement can't be blocked by a single unit; you need 2 or more to block a blitz or to make a sea zone hostile.

[Gargantua]

I've played custom games (Empire Builders)  With custom maps, where incomes were in the 350 to 500 IPC range.

Let me tell you this...  I've seen tough games come and tough games go, but the absolute most menacing, intimidating, energy taxing, and intense gaming I have ever played were these versions.

By the time you had placed your units, rolled some defensive dice, and got your purchase Ready, it was ALREADY your turn again.  Swaths, and swaths of units  would just dissappear into the board.  It's like nothing you've ever seen.

We have fronts that were 15 to 25 territories long, (with terrain) where you're units would just mush into your opponents  stacks of 15, 25, and 50 infantry, and you would watch MORE CHIPS THAN YOU CAN FIT IN YOUR HAND, dissappear from the board.

There is nothing like seeing 58 fighters blown out of a sky, in a SINGLE combat roll.  Only to see half of them repurchased the following turn.

You DO NOT want to play the game at that scale, unless you have more than one player PER country.

[Vance]

It might work for an online game, but yeah I can see how a physical game would be ridiculous (each side rolling 500 dice at the battle of Moscow LOL). 

[empireman]

It might work for an online game, but yeah I can see how a physical game would be ridiculous (each side rolling 500 dice at the battle of Moscow LOL). 

yah online might work better

think about how the game would change if
Inf cost is 1
Arty and mech cost 2
Tanks cost 4
Fighters 6
Tac 7
Bomber 8
AA gun 3
Mnior IC 8
Major ic 20
Subs 4
dds 6
Cruisers 8
BBs 13
Carriers 10
transport 5
Air base 7
Navy Base 7

We would see MASSIVE armies

Awesome alert!

Yeah got that right!!

[Tigerman77]

How about giving the Cruiser an AA roll of 1, or 2 on a 12d system! Keeping everything else the same! This would make the cruiser a little better buy and not be overpowering in a naval battle but would be an excellent carrier escort.