T01 - djensen (Axis) vs. soundcrescent (Allies +8) +NOs -Tech

[Gargantua]

Don't worry Jensen.

No matter what happens - I will avenge you.

[Gargantua]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7bo_A6XnUU

By Grabthars Hammer!

[djensen]

I'm not sure why I didn't get the notification on email. I'll post my turn soon.

[djensen47]

Game History

    Round :11

        Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 3 infantry; 0 PUs remaining

        Combat Move - Italians
            2 infantry moved from Italy to Balkans
            2 fighters moved from Italy to Balkans

        Combat - Italians
            Battle in Balkans
                Italians attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Balkans, round 1 :  1/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Balkans, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Balkans
                Italians win, taking Balkans from Russians with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

        Non Combat Move - Italians
            2 fighters moved from Balkans to Italy

        Place Units - Italians
            3 infantry placed in Italy

        Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 9 PUs; end with 9 PUs total

Territory Summary for Italians :

    Balkans : 2 infantry
    Italy : 1 aaGun, 1 factory, 2 fighters and 7 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

    Germans : 10 / 16
    Russians : 34 / 48
    Japanese : 58 / 73
    British : 25 / 33
    Italians : 9 / 9
    Chinese : 1 / 0
    Americans : 41 / 46



A&A Forum : http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=26635.78#msg938480

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Game History

    Round :11

        Combat Move - Americans
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo-Egypt Sudan
            1 fighter moved from Libya to Anglo-Egypt Sudan
            1 fighter moved from Persia to Anglo-Egypt Sudan
            1 bomber moved from Morocco Algeria to Anglo-Egypt Sudan
            1 cruiser moved from 12 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 12 Sea Zone to French West Africa
            2 infantry moved from Eastern Canada to 9 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 9 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 17 Sea Zone to French West Africa

        Combat - Americans
            Battle in French West Africa
                Americans attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 armour
                    Americans roll dice for 1 cruiser in French West Africa, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in French West Africa, round 1 :  2/4 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 armour in French West Africa, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 armour owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in French West Africa
                Americans win, taking French West Africa from Japanese with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Anglo-Egypt Sudan
                Americans attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery
                    Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Anglo-Egypt Sudan, round 1 :  1/4 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Anglo-Egypt Sudan, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Anglo-Egypt Sudan
                Americans win, taking Anglo-Egypt Sudan from Japanese with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery

        Non Combat Move - Americans
            5 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Persia
            1 artillery moved from Trans-Jordan to Persia
            1 infantry moved from Libya to Egypt
            3 armour moved from Morocco Algeria to Egypt
            1 armour moved from Egypt to Persia
            4 infantry moved from Morocco Algeria to Libya
            1 artillery moved from Morocco Algeria to Libya
            2 fighters moved from Anglo-Egypt Sudan to Persia
            1 armour moved from Persia to Chinghai
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 12 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from French West Africa to 17 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 9 Sea Zone
            4 transports moved from 12 Sea Zone to 9 Sea Zone
            5 armour, 1 artillery and 12 infantry moved from Eastern Canada to 9 Sea Zone
            5 armour, 1 artillery, 12 infantry and 9 transports moved from 9 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone
            5 armour, 1 artillery and 12 infantry moved from 12 Sea Zone to Morocco Algeria
            1 bomber moved from Anglo-Egypt Sudan to Libya
            5 infantry moved from Eastern United States to Eastern Canada
            1 artillery moved from Western Canada to Eastern Canada
            2 armour moved from Western United States to Eastern Canada
            10 infantry moved from Western Canada to Eastern Canada
            1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from Western United States to Western Canada
            1 bomber moved from Libya to Morocco Algeria

        Place Units - Americans
            3 armour placed in Western United States
            2 infantry placed in Eastern United States
            7 infantry placed in Western United States
            1 artillery and 6 infantry placed in Western United States
            1 infantry placed in Eastern United States

        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUs total
            Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 46 PUs
            Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 51 PUs

Territory Summary for Americans :

    Anglo-Egypt Sudan : 1 infantry
    Chinghai : 2 armour
    Eastern Canada : 2 armour, 1 artillery and 15 infantry
    Eastern United States : 1 factory and 3 infantry
    Egypt : 1 aaGun, 3 armour and 5 infantry
    French West Africa : 1 infantry
    Libya : 1 artillery and 4 infantry
    Morocco Algeria : 1 flag, 5 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 12 infantry
    Norway : 1 flag,     Persia : 8 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 19 infantry
    Western Canada : 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 14 infantry
    Western United States : 3 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory and 6 infantry
    7 Sea Zone : 1 carrier and 1 destroyer
    12 Sea Zone : 9 transports
    17 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 transport

Production/PUs Summary :

    Germans : 10 / 16
    Russians : 34 / 48
    Japanese : 56 / 73
    British : 27 / 33
    Italians : 9 / 9
    Chinese : 1 / 0
    Americans : 41 / 51

[djensen47]

Game History

    Round :12

        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 armour and 2 infantry; 0 PUs remaining

        Combat Move - Germans
            1 armour moved from Germany to Northwestern Europe
                  Germans take Northwestern Europe from British
            1 armour moved from Northwestern Europe to Germany

        Non Combat Move - Germans

        Place Units - Germans
            2 armour and 2 infantry placed in Germany

        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 12 PUs; end with 12 PUs total

Territory Summary for Germans :

    Germany : 1 aaGun, 4 armour, 1 factory, 1 fighter and 21 infantry
    India : 1 bomber

Production/PUs Summary :

    Germans : 12 / 12
    Russians : 34 / 48
    Japanese : 56 / 73
    British : 25 / 33
    Italians : 9 / 9
    Chinese : 1 / 0
    Americans : 41 / 51



A&A Forum : http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=26635.80#msg940244

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Game History

    Round :12

        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians repair 1 damage on 1 factory; 47 PUs remaining
            Russians buy 2 armour, 1 artillery and 11 infantry; 0 PUs remaining

        Combat Move - Russians
            1 armour, 2 artilleries and 16 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Evenki National Okrug
            2 armour moved from Russia to Evenki National Okrug
            1 infantry moved from Czechoslovakia Hungary to Balkans
            1 infantry moved from Bulgaria Romania to Balkans
            1 bomber moved from Bulgaria Romania to Balkans

        Combat - Russians
            Battle in Evenki National Okrug
                Russians attack with 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 16 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 16 infantry in Evenki National Okrug, round 1 :  8/21 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Evenki National Okrug, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Evenki National Okrug
                Russians win, taking Evenki National Okrug from Japanese with 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 16 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Balkans
                Russians attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
                Italians defend with 2 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Balkans, round 1 :  2/3 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 2 infantry in Balkans, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Italians and 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Balkans
                Russians win, taking Balkans from Italians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry

        Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 bomber moved from Balkans to Caucasus
            4 infantry moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Chinghai
            3 infantry moved from Caucasus to Kazakh S.S.R.
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Russia to Novosibirsk
            1 armour moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Poland
            1 infantry moved from Poland to Czechoslovakia Hungary
            1 infantry moved from Poland to Bulgaria Romania
            1 submarine moved from 39 Sea Zone to 29 Sea Zone

        Place Units - Russians
            3 infantry placed in Poland
            2 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in Russia
            4 infantry placed in Caucasus
            1 infantry placed in Karelia S.S.R.

        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 38 PUs; end with 38 PUs total
            Russians met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 48 PUs

Territory Summary for Russians :

    Balkans : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Caucasus : 1 aaGun, 1 bomber, 1 factory and 4 infantry
    Chinghai : 8 armour, 1 artillery and 17 infantry
    Czechoslovakia Hungary : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Evenki National Okrug : 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 16 infantry
    Finland : 1 flag,     Karelia S.S.R. : 1 aaGun, 1 factory and 1 infantry
    Kazakh S.S.R. : 3 infantry
    Novosibirsk : 1 artillery and 3 infantry
    Poland : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 4 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 factory and 18 infantry
    Bulgaria Romania : 1 flag, 1 armour and 1 infantry
    Russia : 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory and 3 infantry
    29 Sea Zone : 1 submarine

Production/PUs Summary :

    Germans : 12 / 12
    Russians : 38 / 48
    Japanese : 55 / 73
    British : 25 / 33
    Italians : 6 / 9
    Chinese : 1 / 0
    Americans : 41 / 51

[djensen47]

Game History

    Round :12

        Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 4 armour, 1 artillery, 14 infantry and 1 transport; 0 PUs remaining

        Combat Move - Japanese
            3 infantry moved from East Indies to 38 Sea Zone
            3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 38 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 34 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan
                  Japanese take Trans-Jordan from British
            2 infantry moved from 34 Sea Zone to Anglo-Egypt Sudan
            2 fighters moved from 38 Sea Zone to Anglo-Egypt Sudan
            1 carrier moved from 38 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 38 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 38 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone

        Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Anglo-Egypt Sudan
                Japanese attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                Americans defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 cruiser in Anglo-Egypt Sudan, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Anglo-Egypt Sudan, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Anglo-Egypt Sudan
                Japanese win, taking Anglo-Egypt Sudan from British with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry

        Non Combat Move - Japanese
            2 fighters moved from Anglo-Egypt Sudan to 34 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Stanovoj Chrebet to Yakut S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Buryatia S.S.R. to Stanovoj Chrebet
            1 aaGun, 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Suiyuan to Ningxia
            3 armour moved from Manchuria to Ningxia
            6 infantry moved from Manchuria to Suiyuan
            8 infantry moved from Japan to 62 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 62 Sea Zone to Buryatia S.S.R.
            6 infantry moved from 62 Sea Zone to Manchuria
            2 armour moved from French Indo-China Thailand to India
            2 armour moved from Italian Africa to Rhodesia
            1 fighter moved from Ningxia to Yakut S.S.R.

        Place Units - Japanese
            3 armour placed in Manchuria
            1 armour and 1 infantry placed in French Indo-China Thailand
            8 infantry placed in Japan
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in India
            1 transport placed in 38 Sea Zone
            3 infantry placed in East Indies

        Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 57 PUs; end with 57 PUs total
            Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs
            Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs
            Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs

Territory Summary for Japanese :

    Anglo-Egypt Sudan : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    Australia : 1 flag,     Belgian Congo : 1 flag,     Borneo : 1 flag,     Burma : 1 flag,     Buryatia S.S.R. : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    East Indies : 1 flag, 1 factory and 4 infantry
    French Equatorial Africa : 1 flag,     French Indo-China Thailand : 1 armour, 1 factory and 1 infantry
    French Madagascar : 1 flag,     Fukien : 1 flag,     Hawaiian Islands : 1 flag,     Hupeh : 1 flag,     India : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 32 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 factory and 3 infantry
    Italian Africa : 1 flag,     Iwo Jima : 1 infantry
    Japan : 1 factory and 8 infantry
    Kwangtung : 1 flag,     Manchuria : 1 aaGun, 3 armour, 1 factory and 6 infantry
    Midway : 1 flag,     New Guinea : 1 flag,     New Zealand : 1 flag,     Ningxia : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 17 armour, 6 artilleries and 14 infantry
    Philippine Islands : 1 flag,     Rhodesia : 1 flag, 2 armour
    Sikang : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Solomon Islands : 1 flag,     Soviet Far East : 1 flag,     Stanovoj Chrebet : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Suiyuan : 1 flag, 6 infantry
    Trans-Jordan : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Union of South Africa : 1 flag,     Wake Island : 1 flag,     Yakut S.S.R. : 1 flag, 6 armour, 4 artilleries, 2 fighters and 8 infantry
    Yunnan : 1 flag,     34 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 transports
    36 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer
    38 Sea Zone : 1 battleship and 1 transport
    62 Sea Zone : 2 carriers and 4 transports

Production/PUs Summary :

    Germans : 12 / 12
    Russians : 38 / 48
    Japanese : 57 / 72
    British : 23 / 33
    Italians : 6 / 9
    Chinese : 1 / 0
    Americans : 41 / 51



A&A Forum : http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=26635.82#msg940946

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Game History

    Round :12

        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 armour and 7 infantry; 7 PUs remaining

        Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from Chinghai to Sikang
            1 bomber moved from Belorussia to Sikang
            1 fighter moved from Persia to Sikang
            1 armour moved from France to Northwestern Europe
                  British take Northwestern Europe from Germans
            1 armour moved from Northwestern Europe to France

        Combat - British
            Battle in Sikang
                British attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Sikang, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Sikang, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Sikang
                British win, taking Sikang from Japanese with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

        Non Combat Move - British
            1 fighter moved from Sikang to Chinghai
            1 bomber moved from Sikang to Kazakh S.S.R.
            2 armour, 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 7 Sea Zone
            2 armour, 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from 7 Sea Zone to France
            2 fighters moved from Poland to France
            1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Chinghai to Persia

        Place Units - British
            1 armour and 7 infantry placed in United Kingdom

        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 25 PUs; end with 32 PUs total
            British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 37 PUs

Territory Summary for British :

    Chinghai : 1 armour and 1 fighter
    France : 1 flag, 4 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 11 infantry
    Kazakh S.S.R. : 1 bomber
    Libya : 1 flag,     Northwestern Europe : 1 flag,     Persia : 1 aaGun, 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 7 infantry
    Poland : 1 armour and 1 infantry
    Bulgaria Romania : 3 armour
    Sikang : 1 infantry
    United Kingdom : 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 factory and 7 infantry
    5 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 transport
    7 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 4 transports

Production/PUs Summary :

    Germans : 10 / 12
    Russians : 38 / 48
    Japanese : 56 / 72
    British : 25 / 37
    Italians : 6 / 9
    Chinese : 2 / 0
    Americans : 41 / 51

[djensen47]

Game History

    Round :12

        Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 3 infantry; 0 PUs remaining

        Combat Move - Italians
            7 infantry moved from Italy to Balkans
            2 fighters moved from Italy to Balkans

        Combat - Italians
            Battle in Balkans
                Italians attack with 2 fighters and 7 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 2 fighters and 7 infantry in Balkans, round 1 :  6/9 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Balkans, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Balkans
                Italians win, taking Balkans from Russians with 2 fighters and 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

        Non Combat Move - Italians
            2 fighters moved from Balkans to Germany

        Place Units - Italians
            3 infantry placed in Italy

        Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 9 PUs; end with 9 PUs total

Territory Summary for Italians :

    Balkans : 7 infantry
    Germany : 2 fighters
    Italy : 1 aaGun, 1 factory and 3 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

    Germans : 10 / 12
    Russians : 35 / 48
    Japanese : 56 / 72
    British : 25 / 37
    Italians : 9 / 9
    Chinese : 2 / 0
    Americans : 41 / 51



A&A Forum : http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=26635.85#msg942833

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Game History

    Round :12

        Place Units - Chinese
            1 infantry placed in Chinghai

        Turn Complete - Chinese

Territory Summary for Chinese :

    Chinghai : 1 aaGun and 1 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

    Germans : 10 / 12
    Russians : 35 / 48
    Japanese : 55 / 72
    British : 26 / 37
    Italians : 9 / 9
    Chinese : 2 / 0
    Americans : 41 / 0


Game History

    Round :12

        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUs total
            Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 46 PUs
            Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 51 PUs

Territory Summary for Americans :

    Eastern Canada : 3 armour, 1 artillery and 14 infantry
    Eastern United States : 1 artillery, 1 factory and 9 infantry
    Egypt : 1 aaGun, 5 armour, 1 artillery and 7 infantry
    France : 2 infantry
    Libya : 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 11 infantry
    Morocco Algeria : 1 flag, 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 15 infantry
    Norway : 1 flag,     Persia : 13 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 19 infantry
    Trans-Jordan : 2 infantry
    Western Canada : 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 9 infantry
    Western United States : 2 armour, 1 factory and 1 infantry
    7 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 transport
    10 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    12 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 9 transports

Production/PUs Summary :

    Germans : 10 / 12
    Russians : 35 / 48
    Japanese : 55 / 72
    British : 26 / 37
    Italians : 9 / 9
    Chinese : 2 / 0
    Americans : 41 / 51

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[djensen]

Sorry, been a really busy week.

[djensen47]

Game History

    Round :13

        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 4 infantry; 0 PUs remaining

        Combat Move - Germans
            1 armour moved from Germany to Northwestern Europe
                  Germans take Northwestern Europe from British
            1 armour moved from Northwestern Europe to Germany
            1 infantry moved from Germany to Czechoslovakia Hungary
            1 fighter moved from Germany to Czechoslovakia Hungary

        Combat - Germans
            Battle in Czechoslovakia Hungary
                Germans attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Czechoslovakia Hungary, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Czechoslovakia Hungary, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Czechoslovakia Hungary
                Germans win, taking Czechoslovakia Hungary from Russians with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

        Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter moved from Czechoslovakia Hungary to Germany

        Place Units - Germans
            4 infantry placed in Germany

        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs total

Territory Summary for Germans :

    Czechoslovakia Hungary : 1 infantry
    Germany : 1 aaGun, 4 armour, 1 factory, 1 fighter and 24 infantry
    India : 1 bomber

Production/PUs Summary :

    Germans : 14 / 14
    Russians : 33 / 48
    Japanese : 55 / 72
    British : 24 / 37
    Italians : 9 / 9
    Chinese : 2 / 0
    Americans : 41 / 51



A&A Forum : http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=26635.89#msg945640