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Question: What Empire, post Roman era, was the greatest?  (Voting closes: July 03, 2013, 06:53:20 pm)
the Byzantines
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the Ottoman Turks
the Mongol Empire
Mayan Empire
the Vikings
First Bulgarian Empire
the Abbasid Caliphate
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« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2012, 10:20:40 am »
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Pfftp,

I conquered China last night in my sleep!
Gar, eating alot of Chinese food dose not count as "conquering" the country  wink
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« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2012, 10:29:06 am »
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Technically, Russia lost WW I.  They sued for peace with the Germans and withdrew from the war granting Germany huge concessions.  I suspect if you were to ask the Chinese if they had lost the opium wars that they would answer in the affirmative.  Depends on what you define as being conquered I guess but being forced into agreements you don't want comes close to me.
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« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2012, 10:37:59 am »
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Oh, you mean like Vietnam?
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« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2012, 12:14:35 pm »
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Malachi, I'm sure he meant conquered, as in an occupying force.  Not just winning a war.
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« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2012, 01:56:06 pm »
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Well, I would say Germany was more conquered than Japan was in WWII.  Both countries had occupying forces, but Japan lost a war and allowed the US forces to enter mainland Japan whereas in Germany, pretty much every square inch was fought for, not that there was really much difference.

In the case of Russia in 1917...yeah they probably would not have been too keen on allowing German forces to be inside of the rump of Russia that remained sovereign to Russia.  Germany was happy to disengage and concentrate on the western front.

With Vietnam, who forced who to sign what?  Could make the argument either way I figure...was it Nixon and the B-52s over the North or the North forcing the US sue for peace.

It's a pity after WWII the world didn't just tell the French to bugger off and leave Vietnam alone and indeed, had a marshal plan of sorts been implemented and that dirty phrase 'nation building' been implemented then well....It's nice to see Vietnam and the US on friendly terms now.
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« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2012, 03:17:43 pm »
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I guess that's a military feat, but AFAIK they weren't really the technological pioneers the US is/was in the 40's, and UK had more land. Taking Russia is much easier than you might think if you plan it right and know how to handle the winter.
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« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2012, 10:16:46 pm »
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Taking Russia is much easier than you might think if you plan it right and know how to handle the winter.
eaiser said then done my friend
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