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« Reply #90 on: April 20, 2012, 11:42:13 am »
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KNP,

Thanks for your input. I realize that I could just use some "other" piece and paint it differently or something, and as far as that goes we could just paint everything and NEVER NEED ANY NEW UNITS,...BUT, that's not the case here, nor is it what I(and probably others) would prefer.

In the U.S. Supplement Set, the first from HBG ,they included an Airborne Paratrooper in it. The discussion that followed it's production lead me to believe that HBG would continue to produce Paratroopers for every country in their Supplement sets. I'm only hoping that they continue to include the Paratrooper in the FIRST SET from every nation rather than the second or third set from each nation. I think the Paratrooper unit is that important.

Don't get me wrong,...I intend on buying several of EVERYTHING that HBG and FMG produce. I just want a Paratrooper in the FIRST SET from each nation like they have already done with the U.S. Set.

I'm not trying to influence HBG to CHANGE their unit selection for my wants,...I'm simply asking that they KEEP things as they already were. It would seem a logical selling point for their Air Transport planes IF they had something to use them(Paratroopers). Anyway,...my two cents and REQUEST.

I believe a Marine and a Paratrooper are visually very distinctive and quite different in their looks. Check out the LARGE parachutes on these below.....

"Tall Paul"
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« Reply #91 on: April 20, 2012, 11:52:14 am »
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They look quite different than these Marines.
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« Reply #92 on: April 20, 2012, 12:53:11 pm »
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Very Nice!!!!
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« Reply #93 on: April 20, 2012, 05:31:47 pm »
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Thanks "Coach",

How about the possibility of a Paratrooper in your first Japanese Supplement Set?

My gaming group won't let me use my "Screamin' Eagles" until I have some for ALL of the countries. Can you please help me out?

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« Reply #94 on: April 20, 2012, 06:10:06 pm »
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Thanks "Coach",

How about the possibility of a Paratrooper in your first Japanese Supplement Set?

My gaming group won't let me use my "Screamin' Eagles" until I have some for ALL of the countries. Can you please help me out?

"Tall Paul"
Will you buy 1000 of them?
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« Reply #95 on: April 20, 2012, 06:16:19 pm »
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i use a normal inf. with a control marker under it for paratroops while i wait for paratroopers for each nation.
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« Reply #96 on: April 21, 2012, 06:21:46 am »
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"Coach",

The obvious answer to your question is no, and I don't think you'd expect anyone else would buy 1,000 of anything either. But I believe that Paratrooper units would be enough of an asset to help the sales of the Supplement Set.

Why are you changing the "formula" of units produced from the first supplement set(U.S.)? Do you think other units are more important or would sell better?

I'm simply voicing my concerns regarding Paratrooper units from ALL countries here on this forum which is set up for that purpose. I hoped you'd accept my views as "customer input/preferences".

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« Reply #97 on: April 21, 2012, 07:25:44 am »
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My opinion on the Japan set is this... Japan has been neglected for a long time in getting specialized units when they really deserve quite a few. While the set is still not yet finalized, we have discovered that there are more units we want to make than will fit into one mold. Therefore, we have to choose what goes in set 1 and what goes in set 2. Coach has assured me that they WILL be made as long as there is demand.

Keep in mind that the US Supplement set was really the 2nd US set. The Marines were first. I have a feeling that demand for Japanese pieces will determine the amount of time between Japan sets. You may not get paras in the firs set, but you will likely get paras.

To Tall Paul and others who have commented here: You have great ideas! You always have. Trust me when I tell you, we DO listen. Your opinion, as well as the opinion of others here, drives every decision we make. Without all of the requests and opinions we see here, we wouldn't know what you want! But, we can't always make everything happen. Remember, I wanted the US Naval set as bad as you did! But, it has to wait until there is enough interest in it. You did your part by helping to spread the word about the project every chance you got. I did my part by making more games to use those pieces. Fingers crossed buddy, we may get it yet!

Again, since this set is not final, we still want everyone to weigh in on what you need out of this first set. We want to keep it balanced so that it fits into a Global game role, not just air and naval heavy. But if you see something not on the current list you think we need, TELL US! If you like what's on the list already, TELL US!
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« Reply #98 on: April 21, 2012, 10:10:13 am »
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HBG Guys,

I truly hope that my comments don't come off as "combative" or abrasive. That isn't how I meant them. I KNOW for a FACT that ya'll LISTEN to us, the customers, and I offer a big THANK YOU for that.

I think EVERYONE would agree that there are far more unit types than can be produced in one set. I myself wouldn't be supprised if it took three sets. As such, there probably is no "correct" answer as far as unit selection goes, but perhaps the most A.) Popular B.) Necessary, or C.) New units would be the guidlines.

As far as marketing goes,...I think it would be better(for everyone) to produce the
Air Transport and Paratroopers together at the SAME TIME.
Either BOTH NOW,...or BOTH LATER. There are many worthy units to be produced.

Personally, I'd prefer to post-pone ONE of the other listed units(maybe the Truck) and get the Paratroopers, but that's just me. Check everyone elses opinions on units, perhaps.

I will obviously buy whaterever is produced, but look forward to using my Paratroopers which I can't do until we have them for ALL nations. Again,...
Thank You for all of your efforts and investments so far.

"Tall Paul"
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« Reply #99 on: April 21, 2012, 10:42:12 am »
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I completely disagree with postponing the truck to add paratroopers. In the scale of A&A, airborne troops are rarely used, but a truck (motorized inf, move 2) unit is incredibly useful.
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« Reply #100 on: April 21, 2012, 10:54:12 am »
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id rather see a paratrooper than a truck.
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« Reply #101 on: April 21, 2012, 09:06:12 pm »
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U can make any infantry unit a paratrooper!  But you need a different unit to represent mobile or mechanized infantry!  If you paint your pieces just paint some similar to a paratroopers uniform, or paint the base to differentiate!  It's really a no brainer!!
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« Reply #102 on: April 21, 2012, 09:15:36 pm »
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i agree I use an infantry unit sitting on top of a control marker for paratroopers for everyone but the USA. I have the USA paratroopers HBG put out.
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« Reply #103 on: April 22, 2012, 05:07:04 am »
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We know the paratroopers are coming!  It's not a question of IF...it's just WHEN.  God knows we've waited long enough to get what we have so a few months more for some paratroopers isn't gonna kill me anyway.  I wouldn't go through the effort of hand-painting differently if I were you (of course your choice but...), I'd just wait, use a token or something temporarily, and then eventually we'll get them.  There's just no way HBG can make everyone happy on all releases but I promise they'll deliver eventually. Smiley

Thank GOD for HBG and FMG too.
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« Reply #104 on: April 22, 2012, 05:20:53 am »
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I completely disagree with postponing the truck to add paratroopers. In the scale of A&A, airborne troops are rarely used, but a truck (motorized inf, move 2) unit is incredibly useful.
U can make any infantry unit a paratrooper!  But you need a different unit to represent mobile or mechanized infantry!  If you paint your pieces just paint some similar to a paratroopers uniform, or paint the base to differentiate!  It's really a no brainer!!
I TOTALLY agree! I will use the trucks much more, and sooner, than I will use the paratrooper. I've already got plans for trucks in my game. PLEASE don't sub out the truck.
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