New scenarios for classic and 2nd edition

I found this on a random site. I’ll post if I get my hands on it again.

@hirohito22 said in Classic - some reflections:

@DoManMacgee both maps of date 12 unjustly keep japan tanks away from Moscow or place Moscow “east” of true location and east of caspian sea, this nt only aids Moscow buut unjustly aiding Moscow, at game start, when should be three steps from east coast to Baltic not more and two steps in same turn to Moscow from pacific coast as in photos of original post. as fans we can influence the production of a real game.
however I doubt allies would ever win if ipc were accurate so at least fix the map. thanks.

IMO all Axis and Allies game pieces (in pretty much EVERY version of the game) merely represent a power’s ability to project military clout. In other words, its not literally a tank driving from Hanoi to Cairo in two turns, its that powers ability to project military strength into that area of the globe. The scale and simplicity are relative to the complexity.

There are more advanced, hex based games that will certainly satisfy your craving for the level of historical accuracy you seek.

I’m just curious what the community thinks.

@MeinFuhrer:

Played thrice now and have won them all as axis.  Seems a lot easier to win as Axis in this version.

If your playing a no RR game with a 0 bid and winning as Axis your Allies player is not very good (no disrespect intended).

Barring a total collaps of the dice I wouldn’t lose as Allies in a traditional no RR 3rd Edition game. It favors the Allies, most of the time I would give a bid of 18-20 depending on my opponent in a standard 3rd ED no RR.

If you playing no RR……

Round 1:

USSR hits Ukr with 6inf/2tnk/1ftr and roll it until Ukr is dead but do NOT lose the USSR fighter. Send 1 Ftr/Sub on the German Sub/Tranny. If you only hit 1 retreat the sub back to the North Sea (assuming Germany misses). If you clear them both its a bonus. Some people will hit Manch with 6 Inf/1Tnk. I chose not to. If this goes bad your going to get steam rolled on the back side by Japan. I stack Yak with 6 and put 1 Inf/1Tnk Novo. If all goes well you sink the German tanny/sub and take Ukraine with 2-3 ground. This forces Germany to hit the North Sea with only 1 cover ship (the sub of WE) and the remaining 4 ftrs/1bmr. Its to risky for them to try and send 1 plane after the UK tranny in the Lab. This weakens the hit on the North Sea and Germanys likely to lose more planes. They also have to deal with your forces in Ukr. Those USSR units, normally tanks, cannot be left alive. With the German Air committed to the North Sea Germany will likely be forced to use 1-2 tanks on that counter hit.

In a normal game (barring any oddities in the dice) Germany is down 1-2 planes at the conclusion of its turn R1. The rest is just adjusting and reacting to how the game unfolds.

If your playing with Technology…dont buy ANY IC’s with Japan. This opens you up to strat bombs by Heavy Bmrs. If you only have your original Capital the Allies can not reach with without LRA+HB. Buy 1-2 tranny per turn until your at 10+. Round 1 buy for Japan should ALWAYS be 2 Tranny 3  Inf. Sink Hawaii, Sink Hawaii, Sink Hawaii…use BB, Sub, Ftr, Bmr and kill China. Anything else and your taking risk and thinning out your other battles. Hawaii and China, be done, non combat move and place units.

I am currently deployed overseas and I am playing 1942 1ED. The classic version is much different…faster paced and harder for the Axis

note: I say I give bids of 18-20, the club I play in you have to state your placement with the bid (I.E. 20=2 men EE, 3 Men Libya, Tank Kwang).

@Jennifer:

1)  8 Infantry purchase. (Purchase Phase)
2)  Sub/Trn to Spainish Sea Zone Submarine (Combat Move Phase)
3)  Two fighters to Baltic Sea Zone fleet (Sub/Trn) (Combat Move Phase)
4)  Land fighters in Karelia (Non-Combat Move Phase)
5)  Move all land units from Russia and all but 1 land unit from Caucasus to Karelia (Non-Combat Move phase)
6)  Move 2 Infantry, 1 Armor from Soviet Far East to Yakut SSR (Non-Combat Moe Phase)
7)  Move 2 Infantry from Evenki National Okrug to Yakut SSR (Non-Combat Move Phase)
8)  Place 8 Infantry in Karelia

end result:

19 Infantry, 3 Armor, 2 Fighters in Karelia
1 Infantry in Caucasus
7 Infantry, 1 Armor in Yakut SSR
(Probably) 1 Submarine in Spainish Sea Zone

24 IPCs on round 2.

Next round either take E. Europe or retake Caucasus (lightly) and start staging British and Americans in finland/norway and move them into Karelia.

Germany should cease to exist in 3 rounds.

I assume you did not play with bids, so I would slightly alter the combat moves. By some they are regarded as weak moves, but hey everybody got their own oppinion.

My usual R1 movements (no bid, no rr)

buy 8 inf

Attack sub sz, with 1 sub.

Attack baltic fleet with 1 fig and 1 tran

Strafe Ukr with everything available from Kar, Cau and Mos (8inf and 3 arms if I am not mistaken). Most optimal result is that you leave Ukr with 1 fig or 1 fig and an arm. (retreat to Kar with your remaining forces)

Attack Man (I believe you can hit it with 5 inf, 1 arm and 1 fig)

NCM 1 inf to cau from russia, rest to Kar.

NCM 2 Infantry from Evenki National Okrug to Yakut SSR
8.) NCM Land you fig (baltic battle) in Kar

NCM Land your fig (Man battle) in yakult

Place 8 inf in Kar

Collect 27 IPC’s

Optimal result:
Kar: 14-16 inf, 3 arms  and 1 fig
Cau: 1 inf
Man: 1-3 inf and 1 arm
Yak: 2 inf and 1 fig
SpZs: 1 sub
Baltic: 1 tran

This is if everything went according plan with dice in your favor. I think a lot of people here will agree with me that this will give Russia the most potential and will set back the Axis the most. But again playing with no bid is really flawed, but you should discover that yourself first before you understand why bids are necessary and where to place your bid.

Curious how this CD-ROM will be… A&A meets RTS???

thrasher,
http://axisandallies.TK

I would be all for it as I believe I could have been the biggest Command & Conquer junkie out there back in the day. It will remove some of the stratagy from the game, and I would be interested to see what they do with the units as in I would assume instead of America having just P-51’s and B-29’s there would be different fighters to buy at various cost levels, that could be cool. I guess it will all depend on the vision of the group putting this out, can’t wait for the first beta copy :D

BMRs are better used as part of a INF/ARM/FTR land attack…especislly where there are no AAGs. However, as stated previously, the Allies can afford to lose BMRs in more SBR scenarios than the Axis(BUT, a combined Axis SBR bombing of Russia is ideal!)