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« Reply #1065 on: June 26, 2015, 08:53:10 am »
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Wasn't there something on shapeways... about two different types of plastic finishes you can order for the piece? with quite a difference in cost?

There was a discussion along those lines of page 12 of this thread:
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=33379.165
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« Reply #1066 on: June 30, 2015, 09:19:23 am »
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Just a question for HBG. Is HBG moving more towards 3D printing rather than plastic injection molding in it's product line?�  If so are you move toward more frequent smaller 3D, rather than larger and less frequent injection molded set? Or will you begin going more toward larger more frequent 3D sets ?

As far as 3D printing has come, it still seems like plastic injection still has better overall quality. The 3D pieces look coarse. Almost pixelated in 3D form.

You can easily see in these photos:�  
 
http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/Going-Nuclear-Expansion-Set-B-29-Atom-Bomb-markers_p_1880.html
http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/Me-323-Gigant-3D-Printed-Aircraft-Set_p_1881.html
http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/H-44-German-Super-Battleship-Set-3d-Printed_p_1981.html

The detail seems to be much better than OOB and as good as HBG pieces injection molding, however it is the surface texture (as a painter) that concerns me.

Here is one of Tall Paul's APD destroyer/transports from another thread. They are 3D printed from Shapeways and you can really see the surface texture in this hi-res photo. Granted, it may not be quite as visible at distance, but it is pretty apparent to me. Looks like it was eaten by acid.
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=26127.msg1287679#msg1287679


I guess this means I am voting to continue major set production with injection molding until 3D printing can be done with greater resolution, as it were. That is... if I had a vote.�  rolleyes

----JWO & others,
I feel that I should explain a few things in order that everyone understands about 3D printing from SHAPEWAYS.
----YES, the APD destroyer transport ended up looking like it was dipped in an acid bath! But that's simply because after 5 different paint colors a dull coat finish was applied and that is what unfortunately caused the unfortunate "acid bath" look,....not the quality of the unit beforehand.
Before the APD was painted it was UNBELIEVABLY DETAILED. It was our painting mistake that messed it up.
----I can't stress this point enough. When orderring units from SHAPEWAYS you basically get what you pay for! If you want high-quality, unbelievably detailed units, you must order them in F.U.D. (Frosted Ultra Detail) plastic. Yes, they cost more in F.U.D., about $2.00-$3.00 each usually.
----If you want to only pay .50 each for the units, YES, you will get a much less detailed unit with rough surfaces and sometimes a "pock mark" or "washbord" look. Like I said,....you get what you pay for as far as quality terms.
----I think that if everyone on this forum that has ever orderred anything from SHAPEWAYS voiced their opinions they would agree with the above formula:
units orderred in FROSTED ULTRA DETAIL plastic are awesomely detailed, but WORTH THE EXTRA COST if you want nice looking units! I know that everything that I've orderred, from whatever designer, that was produced in F.U.D. I have been totally pleased with!

----And if you find something you like,....but it's in the wrong size (proportion/scale), almost all of the designers will re-draw the unit in the scale you want. I can't tell you how many times a designer re-drew and aircraft from 1/700 to 1/500 for me. It's simply a matter of time for the designer.

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I totally agree with you Hoffman...and am in the same boat.  These 3D pieces do look coarse in texture..and tall paul's destroyer...well painted..but up close looks like it was sunken and under the sea with coral for years! Im on the fence..i like the variety of units, but I dry brush all my pieces and these textures would pick up all the highlights in the wrong way.  Wasn't there something on shapeways... about two different types of plastic finishes you can order for the piece? with quite a difference in cost?
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« Reply #1067 on: June 30, 2015, 09:44:23 am »
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Hey Paul! That is awesome. Thanks for the response. I knew you had a good deal of personal experience with Shapeways and I was hoping you would throw your two cents in. It is encouraging to know that the quality is better than some of the pictures would indicate.
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« Reply #1068 on: June 30, 2015, 10:07:46 am »
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Lucas & Others,


Hey Paul! That is awesome. Thanks for the response. I knew you had a good deal of personal experience with Shapeways and I was hoping you would throw your two cents in. It is encouraging to know that the quality is better than some of the pictures would indicate.

----All I can say is: "F.U.D. is a wonderful thing!"
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« Reply #1069 on: Today at 06:40:27 am »
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Does anybody know the rules for the British Swordfish and Barracuda pieces?

I know their used for Naval targets, but that is all I remember.

Thanks,

John
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« Reply #1070 on: Today at 06:52:59 am »
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Does anybody know the rules for the British Swordfish and Barracuda pieces?

I know their used for Naval targets, but that is all I remember.

Thanks,

John

Are you talking house rules? Otherwise seems they would just use tac rules.
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