Botider (Axis) vs Jen (Allies) G40A2 +NO -Tech Gm3

[Botider]

So, how's the arguement that Russia cannot hold against Germany and Italy for 10 rounds going?  Think we busted that myth yet?

if by "hold" you mean "survive"... it's a moot question. if by "hold" you mean "defeat"... the jury's still out. british help from india is going to be necessary, but it's available, so the odds of my getting that 8th vc in volgograd are looking slim...

very nice russian defense.

[Cmdr Jennifer]

So, how's the arguement that Russia cannot hold against Germany and Italy for 10 rounds going?  Think we busted that myth yet?

if by "hold" you mean "survive"... it's a moot question. if by "hold" you mean "defeat"... the jury's still out. british help from india is going to be necessary, but it's available, so the odds of my getting that 8th vc in volgograd are looking slim...

very nice russian defense.

By hold, I mean Russia preventing Germany from winning before the Indians and Americans can come help.

[Botider]

Without British help it would be difficult. But the name of the game is "Axis and Allies," not "Germans and Russians." 'Twill be difficult to take down the red bear... I am finding in just the few games I have played that this is tough for the Axis to win...

[Cmdr Jennifer]

Yes.  And it drives me absolutely insane when people say "Oh Germany can beat Russia easily" etc.  Sure, in classic, revised, a little harder in anniversary, but it's rather difficult in 1940 to take out Russia with Germany! 

It can be done.  It generally requires Japan to invade heavily and Italy to threaten Caucasus hard along with a German take down of London, but it's not "easy"

[Botider]

seeing as how i have no earthly idea how to play this...

japan 10purchase
9 inf... spend $27

combat
aleutian is ( )
2 inf japan via trn sz6 > sz8

noncombat
fleet sz6 > sz8
2 ftr, tbmb korea > japan
3 inf, rtl, aa korea > manchuria
2 inf, rtl amur > buryatia
mech sakha > buryatia
inf siberia > sakha
15 inf, 5 rtl, arm jehol > manchuria
6 inf, 2 rtl, mech, 2 arm yakut > buryatia

deployment
9 inf > japan

collect
$21

[Cmdr Jennifer]

USA:

Buy(91)
* 5 Infantry
* 5 Armor
* 5 Destroyers
* 1 Submarine

Combat Moves:

Infantry from Hainan to Okinawa
3 Destroyers from SZ 65 to SZ 85


Combat:

SZ 85:
Attacker:

Rolls: 3@2; Total Hits: 1

3@2: (5, 2, 4)

Defender:

Rolls: 1@1; Total Hits: 0

1@1: (5)

[Cmdr Jennifer]

NCM:

4 Fighters, Tactical Bomber, 3 Carriers, Battleship, 4 Cruisers, 8 Destroyers, 8 Submarines, 4 Transports from SZ 20 to SZ 6
3 Infantry, Artillery, 3 Armor from KSI to SZ 6
Infantry from Formosa to SZ 6
Destroyer, 10 Submarines from SZ 33 to SZ 6
Destroyer from SZ 18 to SZ 6
Destroyer from SZ 17 to SZ 6
Destroyer from SZ 16 to SZ 4
Destroyer from SZ 10 to SZ 3
Destroyer from SZ 10 to SZ 2
Destroyer from SZ 10 to SZ 1
Destroyer from SZ 26 to SZ 14
Destroyer from SZ 26 to SZ 15
Destroyer from SZ 26 to SZ 9
3 Submarines from SZ 10 to SZ 25
MI from W. USA to Alaska
MI from W. USA to BCO
Destroyer from SZ 109 to SZ 91
Submarine from SZ 109 to SZ 110
8 Submarines from SZ 101 to SZ 104
3 Strategic Bombers to CHA


Build: 5 Infantry, 5 ARmor in W. USA
Build: Submarine, 5 Destroyers in SZ 101

Collect: 25 NO + 64 TT = 89 IPC

[Cmdr Jennifer]

China:

Buy(25)
* 3 Infantry
* 4 Artillery

Combat Moves:

Infantry from SHA to JEH


NCM:

Infantry from KSU to SHA
15 Infantry, 6 Artillery, Fighter from HOP to CHA
3 Infantry from SHE to Hop
4 Infnatry from SUI to Cha
Infantry from ANH to Cha


Build: 3 Infantry, 4 Artillery in CHA


Collect: 20 + 6 NO = 26 IPC


England:

Buy(25)
* 7 Infantry
* 1 Artillery

Combat Moves: None

NCM:

11 Infantry, 2 Artillery, MI, 3 Armor, 2 Fighters from W. India to E. Persia
5 Infnatry, Artillery, AA Gun from India to W. India
Armor from India to E. Persia
3 Armor from Burma to W. India
2 Infantry from Sham State to Burma
Infantry from Burma to India
Battleship, Transport, Infantry, Artillery from SZ 106 to SZ 109


Build: 7 Infantry, Artillery in India

Collect: 25 IPC


Australia:

Buy(39)
* 1 Battleship
* 1 Destroyer
* 1 Submarine
* Save 5

Combat Moves: None

NCM:

Infantry from New Zealand to NTE
Infantry from NBR to NTE
2 Trnasports to SZ 55
2 Destroyers, Cruiser to SZ 79
3 Fighters to E. Persia
Destroyer to SZ 81


Build: Battleship, Destroyer, Submarine in SZ 62

Collect: 5 Saved + 10 NO + 14 TT = 29 IPC

[Botider]

italy 10purchase
9 inf, rtl, ftr, 2 sub... spend $53

combat
fr west africa & gold coast ( )
arm fr central africa blitzes

northwest persia (inf)
7 inf, 4 rtl, 6 arm iraq
arm syria

central persia (2 inf)
3 inf, rtl iraq

romania (2 inf)
2 inf, rtl bulgaria

sz91 (dd)
sub sz94
2 ftr, tbmb gibraltar

[Botider]

northwest persia
3 inf @ 1, 4 inf/4 rtl @ 2, 7 arm @ 3

Rolls: 3@1 8@2 7@3; Total Hits: 7

3@1: (6, 1, 4)8@2: (5, 5, 4, 1, 6, 2, 2, 6)7@3: (3, 2, 6, 4, 3, 5, 4)

vs
inf @ 2

Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 1

1@2: (1)

central persia
2 inf @ 1, inf/rtl @ 2

Rolls: 2@1 2@2; Total Hits: 1

2@1: (3, 6)2@2: (6, 1)

vs
2 inf @ 2

Rolls: 2@2; Total Hits: 1

2@2: (5, 1)

romania
inf @ 1, inf/rtl @ 2

Rolls: 1@1 2@2; Total Hits: 1

1@1: (3)2@2: (3, 1)

vs
2 inf @ 2

Rolls: 2@2; Total Hits: 0

2@2: (5, 3)

sz91
sub @ 2, 2 ftr @ 3, tbmb @ 4

Rolls: 1@2 2@3 1@4; Total Hits: 2

1@2: (5)2@3: (5, 3)1@4: (3)

vs
dd @ 2

Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 0

1@2: (3)

[Botider]

northwest persia taken w/ loss of inf
central persia... each lose 1 inf
romania... 1 russian inf killed
sz91 cleared w/out loss

central persia
inf @ 1, inf/rtl @ 2

Rolls: 1@1 2@2; Total Hits: 0

1@1: (3)2@2: (4, 3)

vs
inf @ 2

Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 0

1@2: (6)

romania
inf @ 1, inf/rtl @ 2

Rolls: 1@1 2@2; Total Hits: 0

1@1: (3)2@2: (6, 5)

vs
inf @ 2

Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 1

1@2: (2)

[Botider]

 

central persia
inf @ 1, inf/rtl @ 2

Rolls: 1@1 2@2; Total Hits: 1

1@1: (5)2@2: (2, 3)

vs
inf @ 2

Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 0

1@2: (6)

romania
inf/rtl @ 2

Rolls: 2@2; Total Hits: 1

2@2: (1, 3)

vs
inf @ 2

Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 1

1@2: (2)

[Botider]

central persia taken w/out further loss
romania taken w/ loss of additional inf... rtl remains

good defense... all those little hits add up.

noncombat
2 ftr, tbmb sz91 > gibraltar
5 inf, 2 rtl syria > iraq
2 arm egypt > iraq
tbmb sudan > iraq
2 inf congo > sudan
2 inf south france > france
6 inf, rtl northern italy > syria via 4 trn sz98 > sz97 > sz99
dd sz95 > sz99
dd sz95 > sz92
ca, dd sz94 > sz92
2 trn sz92 > sz95
3 trn sz98 > sz95
bb, ca sz98 > sz99
4 inf, 3 rtl bulgaria > greece

deployment
2 sub > sz95
2 inf, ftr > egypt
7 inf, rtl > northern italy

collect
$59

[Cmdr Jennifer]

Go for Germany, I'll do France with Russia (since you didn't post a map anyway)

[Botider]

yeah, i'm mulling germany.
one other italian ncm... dd sz92 > sz91.

here is a map after italy's move... still contemplating.