Has anyone actually played to 8 VCs? Axis can't "win", can only stalemate.

@captain:

Yes…the trannies could be sunk, probably not ANYTIME though. A destroyer and loaded airbase could be a deterrent for attacks on them.
If Germany want to build an IC in that region I feel Finland would be a better choice…or they could wait until the US builds one in Norway and take it from them.

In IPC terms…

Loaded AB (West Germany, 3 FGT) + DD + 2 X TT = 52 IPC. Considering that you already have the three FGT and one TT at the start of the game then DD + TT = 20 IPC. But your FGT and available TT are tied to the Baltic. No trip to the Med, Middle East, Africa or central Russia for them.

Minor IC = 12 IPC and that’s all. Better put it in Finland for better defense against amphibious assaults and closer proximity to Leningrad.

@theROCmonster:

Honestly I think if anything the allies are advantaged in this one. US is just so powerful. Russia will always fall no matter what the allies do, but it then becomes a struggle for the axis to take Egypt. Normally a game will come down to the US having factories in finland/Norway, and possibly southern france and Normandy. While Germany has a ton of money, and Italy is making under 10 because of convoy raids. Germany has a ton of money that it tries to use to in both defense against a monstrous US, and a pretty powerful UK, while also trying to take Egypt. As long as allied players don’t freak out when Moscow falls then they have a good shot at victory.

The allies have to play very smart, and not rush into things if they are to keep germany from getting the final VC.

if you count the regular income from all nations together you come up to 149 IPCs. With the national Objectives you get an possible additional income of somewhat around 90 IPC at maximum. So if noone saves any money ever the maximum you’ll need at one point is somewhere around 240 IPCs. Now you might want to count in some savings and the possibility to change between the different denominations.
I guess to be on the sure side you should have about 350 IPCs. How many of which denominations depends a bit on what you and your buddies prefer. Would you want to have more then 10 1-IPC-bills? Or do you change those anyway to a 5 or 10-IPC-bill? And so on :wink:

My bad. Italy goes after UK, so no can do defending G2 movements.

@Krieghund:

You guys are right, the USSR would simply not get the units.  However, the Soviets only have to control the territory during the Mobilize New Units phase, not for the entire turn.

Good point, kinda like the Burma Road (or any NO). Just decide if its worth the resources to take it back to get the free inf.

Oops, I guess you would just use the Italians….ok maybe fancy Chinese units :) I’ll try not to miss the obvious next time I post. Seriously, for those who get Italian and Russia piece colors mixed up, blue would be obvious in a homemade aa50.

Lets say you kept Italians in this set , and split the French pieces so you could have two games going…aae40 and aa50Homemade. Its a stretch.

Back to the point of this forum, I can see the option for France to build a carrier if they are not taken round 1…an Idea I have posted for speeding up a Russian invasion potentially. Granted it would probably be sank, but it could be built, now how about that French Battleship? :)

Yes, but with so much information overload I started doubting my own thoughts and ideas.

@Krieghund:

@GrayBlaZe:

Hey Keighund, got a question; Why could it not be considered to be up to a nine person global game instead of six.  I do understand that playing France, China or ANZAC will be very minor, however, it’s possible for nine people to draw straws and last three places got it get the minors.  Or am I missing somthing?  I’m assuming that it’s just listed as six because that is the max number that would be a good game to spread playing around equally so nobody is just totally eliminated fast with France or having to play limited China.  Is this correct?  Thanx……

You’ve already answered your own question:

@GrayBlaZe:

When they state the number of players, it is just a recomendation.  You could very well play with nine players except; France, China, & ANZAC would be quite boring, unless a newbe or child was playing with you, it would be good for them to play a minor country.  If you are playing with six then some player would play two counties, however, they are still considerd nine different armies; if you play two they don’t mix there income.  So it always be nine indiviual counties weither you play with nine people or two.

The “official” player mix listed in the rules is what we consider to be the best mix for optimal enjoyment of the game.  There’s nothing stopping you from changing that if you have more than six people who want to play.  I do think, however, that getting beyond six will definitely get into territory that could be at least somewhat boring for players of minor powers (ANZAC, China and France).  A seventh player playing all three wouldn’t be too bad, though.