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VZSTAL
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« on: March 03, 2010, 04:14:52 am »
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During one of our many games of AAP40, my friends and I were tossing around wants and ideas for the world game and we came up with an interesting rule for the US.  Since the "lend-lease" program was such a big part of America's role, once a turn the US player can buy 3 inf, 1 inf and 1 art, or 1 tnk and place these units in any allied capital or in a chineese territory and they become part of that power's forces.  We thought it would put a new interesting spin on things.  What do you guys think?
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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2010, 06:48:40 am »
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How about the US can "set aside" some of its income for another power the next turn (up to 5, 10 or 15 IPCs worth).  The money is set aside until the Russian or British player's turn and they get to spend it on their income phase as if its theirs.  If the Axis powers have subs in Allied convoy zones they get a chance to intercept the convoy money; each sub gets a 50% chance to destroy 5 of the incoming IPCs?
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2010, 09:31:08 pm »
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During one of our many games of AAP40, my friends and I were tossing around wants and ideas for the world game and we came up with an interesting rule for the US.  Since the "lend-lease" program was such a big part of America's role, once a turn the US player can buy 3 inf, 1 inf and 1 art, or 1 tnk and place these units in any allied capital or in a chineese territory and they become part of that power's forces.  We thought it would put a new interesting spin on things.  What do you guys think?

I think that it would be okay if you raised the price to do this, otherwise it is like allowing the US player to mobilize pieces anywhere he wants.
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2010, 10:24:09 am »
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It's an interesting idea, but I think that if it was used, the U.S. should only be able to use it when there not at war, for the obvious reasons as it's unfair to mobilize 100 ipcs worth of units in like Anzac or india, and also b/c they really didn't lend-lease as much once they were at war, did they?
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2010, 10:30:11 am »
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It's an interesting idea, but I think that if it was used, the U.S. should only be able to use it when there not at war, for the obvious reasons as it's unfair to mobilize 100 ipcs worth of units in like Anzac or india, and also b/c they really didn't lend-lease as much once they were at war, did they?

His original suggestion had limits of 3 infantry, or 1 infantry and 1 artillery, or 1 tank per turn. If you put further restrictions on that when at war, you might as well just say that they can no longer lend/lease.
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2010, 04:02:59 pm »
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I think that the us could build the units and lend them to britian for instance. The us would then build the British tan units in eastern us and then the units must be shipped to their destination. The us would build it then britian would be responsible for transporting them. This would be pretty similar to what we did in ww2. Then if we really wanted to make lend lease in this game interesting we could have britian build us units whrn they have high enough number if ipcs or once Germany is captured. 
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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2010, 04:26:36 pm »
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I think that the us could build the units and lend them to britian for instance. The us would then build the British tan units in eastern us and then the units must be shipped to their destination. The us would build it then britian would be responsible for transporting them. This would be pretty similar to what we did in ww2. Then if we really wanted to make lend lease in this game interesting we could have britian build us units whrn they have high enough number if ipcs or once Germany is captured. 

I think this is a good idea, as the US had a cash-and-carry policy.  The units should be built in the US and have to be transported to the Nation.  The could be transported by US ships ONCE USA is at war.  This would be more realistic than giving the powers IPCs directly.

This gives the AXIS a chance to intercept or at least delay the convoys.

This makes the Russian convoys a joint UK / USA problem as it was historically and makes Scandinavia more important to both AXIS and ALLIES.  Assistance to CHINA would have to go the long route as it did historically ..USA - India - Burma road - CHINA.
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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2010, 05:32:20 pm »
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I think this is a good idea as it may force the Axis to declare war on US sooner than they would like to.
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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2010, 07:34:16 am »
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I think this is a good idea as it may force the Axis to declare war on US sooner than they would like to.

GOOD POINT!
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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2010, 03:04:32 am »
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but before the US declare war they only have like 20 ipcs. Why would they want to there little ipcs on the UK when they have to get ready for war
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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2010, 09:51:23 am »
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20 ipc? No, probably around 30

Remember, they have 17 in the Pacific. If CUS and EUS, I would expect at least 10 more ipc.

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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2010, 07:53:13 pm »
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but before the US declare war they only have like 20 ipcs. Why would they want to there little ipcs on the UK when they have to get ready for war

USA and UK are on the same team, so if you can get pieces into the action sooner by lending them to those already at war, why wouldn't you?
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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2010, 01:27:56 am »
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but before the US declare war they only have like 20 ipcs. Why would they want to there little ipcs on the UK when they have to get ready for war

USA and UK are on the same team, so if you can get pieces into the action sooner by lending them to those already at war, why wouldn't you?

Exactly.  Good point, BD.
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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2010, 08:42:01 pm »
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20 ipc? No, probably around 30

Remember, they have 17 in the Pacific. If CUS and EUS, I would expect at least 10 more ipc.



And Including Brazil, panama, the west indies? change that 10 to like 22-25 bringing the U.S. to about 40 plus national objectives. That's pretty hefty for a neutral power.
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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2010, 09:29:06 pm »
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The Americans building British (or Soviet units) and placing them in the US is a great idea.  It could easily be a House Rule.  Remember the US "traded" 50 WWI DDs to the UK for naval bases.  Lots of equipment got funneled through Canada even before Lend Lease was official.  The US congress adopted a cash and carry policy in September, 1939, in which war material was sold to the Allies. It required the buying nation to pick up the war material in an American port so that the belligerent nation assumed the risk of German U-boats.  This was replaced by Lend-Lease in March of 1941, in particular because China didn't have ready cash.  Lend-lease continued throughout the war.  The UK also provided lend-lease on a lessor scale and Canada provided lend-lease to the UK, on a much lessor scale. Lend-lease could be a general rule, not just one that just applied to the US. (Canada also provided lend-lease to the Soviets.)
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