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« Reply #150 on: January 19, 2010, 02:33:09 pm »
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As far as I can see, spending nothing in the Pacicifc thertre will be a death sentence for the allies. Thes ANZACs, China, India and Hawaii will fall, Then their income will be about 100 for NOs. From India, they would start pushing into Russia from the Cacacus, taking the middle east along the way, and would crush Russia. From there, they could easily take the USA.

But if you felt the need to split it, just make them spend AT LEAST 40 in each thertre to keep it simple.
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« Reply #151 on: January 19, 2010, 02:54:46 pm »
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I believe that the US should be able to decide how it wants to allocate its money just like all of the other countries.
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« Reply #152 on: January 19, 2010, 02:58:29 pm »
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But America is the only country that-

A-Has 2 huge war threeats that need lots of money.
B-Has lots of money
C-Has 2 huge factories with nothing in the middles.

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There income should be split.
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« Reply #153 on: January 19, 2010, 03:03:48 pm »
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They will split their income if they need to.
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« Reply #154 on: January 19, 2010, 07:30:35 pm »
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If the distance between Eastern and Western factories is a factor forcing a split, should we also split Brits income from Indian and African ventures? No. That's stupid.
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« Reply #155 on: January 19, 2010, 08:32:56 pm »
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If the distance between Eastern and Western factories is a factor forcing a split, should we also split Brits income from Indian and African ventures? No. That's stupid.

So then the ANZACs should hand back the cash?
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« Reply #156 on: January 19, 2010, 08:47:30 pm »
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So then the ANZACs should hand back the cash?
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« Reply #157 on: January 19, 2010, 09:35:44 pm »
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I would have hoped Anzac be united with UK. That way, UK would be incredibly rich, thus making him likely the perfect country to play (I mean, with IC in India, Australia and UK, who wouldn't want to play UK? So much possibilities! Close to action, and also everywhere at the same time)
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« Reply #158 on: January 19, 2010, 10:18:11 pm »
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As far as I can see the UK already has it good enough off.

They get emidate land wars in India and Africa (which I think will be awsome), have a big a war aginst Germany, naval battles in the Med, India and Alantic.

Then the crown, they get to be part of overloard, the US or Russia should get the ANZAC.

I already have my name down for UK, if they get the ANZACs they will be the only player worth wanting.
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« Reply #159 on: January 20, 2010, 02:23:04 am »
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Even if distances are a problem in RL - the game turn is what 6 months ? so even if the arms factory can be in New England, the Division can be assembled in San Diego with no problem, so (KISS) NO split income.
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« Reply #160 on: January 20, 2010, 08:18:18 pm »
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Even if distances are a problem in RL - the game turn is what 6 months ? so even if the arms factory can be in New England, the Division can be assembled in San Diego with no problem, so (KISS) NO split income.

I've heard game turns were even less, sometimes as low as 3 months, but that would still be enough time.
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« Reply #161 on: January 21, 2010, 01:57:02 am »
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Let's pray they do a gazillion territories in mainland USA and Canada to ensure they must split the income. A 2 territories USA would be ... patetic  tongue
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« Reply #162 on: January 21, 2010, 09:03:40 am »
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To me it won't matter if US income is split or not. You will be able to do as you please anyway. It will just take more planning. In some cases it could take more time, but not necessarily. It could also work as a tactic, so the enemy isn't sure where that stack of air units are going. In WWII the US constantly used the Panama Canal to shuttle fleet and equipment. I like that the game gives us a little logistics.

BD why is this even an issue for you. You will still be able to buy fleet on one side, and air on the other. Your ftr placed on E US should be able to land on carriers off Hawaii. Ftr placed on W US should still be in UK in 2 turns via Canada because of AB. When I play I like to keep the US in both theaters. Usually about 2/3 income goes to one side or the other for a more balanced US strat, hinging on what ��� is doing. Seeing ��� in 40P, the US will not be able to bail in the Pacific for K Euro F.

Sounds like the US income will be split as if it were playing in separate games. Everything earned on the Pacific side (including NO's) will be spent in San Fran. Likewise for Wash w/no variances. I wonder if San Fran will continue to be considered a capital for game purposes. If Washington is taken do you have to give up you San Fran $.  This could be stepping away from the capture the flag rule (I doubt it, but would be easy to implement). On a side note I wonder if something similar will be done w/India. Looks like N S Wales will keep its capital status for Anz.
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« Reply #163 on: January 21, 2010, 09:17:49 am »
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Sounds like the US income will be split as if it were playing in separate games. Everything earned on the Pacific side (including NO's) will be spent in San Fran. Likewise for Wash w/no variances. I wonder if San Fran will continue to be considered a capital for game purposes. If Washington is taken do you have to give up you San Fran $.  This could be stepping away from the capture the flag rule (I doubt it, but would be easy to implement). On a side note I wonder if something similar will be done w/India. Looks like N S Wales will keep its capital status for Anz.

If income were split depending on where a territory is located on the map it would be very hard to keep track of.  Also, looking at the map, there are territories which overlap both maps in Russia, China, and possibly India.  If the US somehow gets a hold of one of those territories (through a captured capital) who would get the money?  I think the ONLY forced split should be where the DoW national objectives are concerned.  The 10 IPCs that the WUS is normally worth can be spent as normal IPCs wherever the US wishes.  The 40 IPCs given to the WUS from the DoW NO is the only money that should be forced to be spent in the WUS.  A similar NO in the EUS would be the same.  Regular territory income and other NOs would be spent as normal, wherever the US player wishes.
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« Reply #164 on: January 21, 2010, 10:05:11 am »
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That is possible, but now your creating 3 incomes for the US. NO East, NO west, and tt income. The other NO's that the US get's ($5 IPC) would also go to the NO east or west I guess. Then there's convoys, which income pays for that. You would have to keep three separate incomes and it might get confusing. It would be easier IMO to just buy units in each theater and move them where you want them.

The more I think about it the more it looks like when you hook up both sides, the individual games will still be in place to a certain extent (I think IL mentioned this first?). There will be some minor changes in set up, and political rules. I think what you see now in 40P is what your gonna get in 40GL for the most part. The fact that they left all those Manchurian's there for ��� w/o having to worry about the Russian boarder kinda proves my point (for now is just over kill in China).

It also looks like there will be tt breaks pretty close to where the two maps will meet. You will be able to determine simply by where the name of the tt is. If its name is on the 40P map then its a Pacific tt and so on.
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