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« Reply #75 on: July 24, 2009, 05:08:42 am »
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I received an official response from Wizards of the Coast to my email (organized as Veqryn suggested).

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Wizards of the Coast has licensed Axis & Allies and other Avalon Hill games to GameTableOnline.com for online play. We encourage Avalon Hill fans to visit Game Table Online to continue their online play experience.

So, I suppose there is not any planning of doing computer games or other. The reason for the legal action agaisnt TripleA is that GTO has the license for online play.

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« Reply #76 on: July 24, 2009, 05:22:49 am »
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Screw that.  I'm not paying money everytime I want a competitive game of Axis and Allies.  TripleA will live on underground I reckon.
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« Reply #77 on: July 24, 2009, 09:14:50 am »
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As i said, they can stuff it..   No more buys for me, they mishandled the Aniversery edition (limited edition ftl) and the tripleA issue.


So screw them lets make sure tripleA stays online one way or the other.
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« Reply #78 on: July 24, 2009, 09:17:44 am »
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This prose is a beautiful use of sarcasm. Keep up the chimp talk.

Thx man, you invented the chimp metaphor/concept for Hasbro/Wotc employees.

Now, this clip is similar to how Hasbro attacks TripleA smiley)   or any other freeware software version which makes it possibly to play A&A on a PC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKpZUsRJWBg

Although the (real) chimpanzees use only a couple of minutes to solve this problem, Wotc/Hasbro chimps would not solve this problem as fast as our ancestors in this video clip.

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« Reply #79 on: July 24, 2009, 09:20:15 am »
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We all know that there are people who will send the program around anyway. 
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« Reply #80 on: July 24, 2009, 09:38:32 am »
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I received an official response from Wizards of the Coast to my email (organized as Veqryn suggested).

They said:

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Thank you for contacting us with your concern.

Wizards of the Coast has licensed Axis & Allies and other Avalon Hill games to GameTableOnline.com for online play. We encourage Avalon Hill fans to visit Game Table Online to continue their online play experience.

So, I suppose there is not any planning of doing computer games or other. The reason for the legal action agaisnt TripleA is that GTO has the license for online play.

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I got the same answer today, with exactly the same wording. After seeing your answer, I am definitely going to write back to them because that is no way to reply to a costumer, especially because that answer completely ignores some issues I mentioned to them.
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« Reply #81 on: July 24, 2009, 09:50:31 am »
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Yes perhaps GTO decided that it cant bite enough of the apple so they yanked the chimps about and told them: close down the competing versions of AA because we paid for a license to make AA and they did not. The hate may be redirected against chimps at GTO.

Yes i think we have an answer.

Game table online just shut down TripleA!
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« Reply #82 on: July 24, 2009, 09:52:51 am »
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I received an official response from Wizards of the Coast to my email (organized as Veqryn suggested).

They said:

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Thank you for contacting us with your concern.

Wizards of the Coast has licensed Axis & Allies and other Avalon Hill games to GameTableOnline.com for online play. We encourage Avalon Hill fans to visit Game Table Online to continue their online play experience.

So, I suppose there is not any planning of doing computer games or other. The reason for the legal action agaisnt TripleA is that GTO has the license for online play.

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I gather TripleA was free and GTO is not?

Makes you wonder what GTO was thinking.
Pay for the rights to market something when people are already using the product for free?
What kind of cabron buys a ring for the village bicycle?
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« Reply #83 on: July 24, 2009, 10:01:11 am »
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http://www.battleforces.com/screenshots

This looks interesting. its AA but its not like Trip A
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« Reply #84 on: July 24, 2009, 12:16:47 pm »
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Oh well, I guess we never ceased to be monkeys after all. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a15KgyXBX24
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Hobbes - Great Chimp video link cheesy

I have the stable version @TripleA and it works, but could not get the unstabble version to download. It seems like it is pretty good as far as a free program is concerned, there are some bugs, and the AI is a dimwit sometimes, but still good fun. Obviously ment to be played against another person through sourceforge which is a lot better. I think it is a little cheesy for Hasbro to start worrying about this now as it has been around for a while and they are not really involved with AA anymore anyway. I think this all started with GTO as mentioned by Romulus. It is a shame as AA fans are some of the most loyal and they will buy every product (almost) AA comes out with.

There is obviously a demand for an online PC game version and even a stand alone PC game version of AA because of the quicker game play and less time require to finish a game and lets face it, this is the computer age and boardgames in general are almost on the way out. Personnaly I prefer sitting around the table with a bunch of friends playing a "real" AA game, but that can take all day or sometimes several, but at home after diner on a week night, a PC game makes way more sense. Avalon Hill / WOTC / Atari (or Hasbro) should make their own new PC version and simply blow all the others away and that would solve all their issues as AA fans would flock to the newer better game even if they have had enough of the "Chimps", just because they love the game.

I actually have a copy of the original Hasbro PC game and I still play it now and then as it is not that bad. But with the new computer advances, etc, they could come up with one PC game that has ALL AA game versions built-in so you could play any of them anytime at home alone (Pacific, Europe, AA50, AAR, Battle of the Bulge, D-Day, Etc.), and they could improve the AI as to be just like facing an experience veteran human player. That would be the cats meow.

If they made this happen everyone would quickly forget about all the other versions and this would be the new hot topic. cool

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« Reply #85 on: July 24, 2009, 04:36:22 pm »
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GTO is free for me and others who registered many months ago, (at least it still is free for A&A), but GTO need much more work and coding to be comparable to TripleA, imo. Maybe they'll get there, but now they're not even close, imo.

I would welcome any official software version which includes all A&A games, and a serious platform/server for online play. But GTO was/is not meant to be implementing all A&A versions online, and GTO lacks 15-20 features which should be implemented even before they launched the online application. As long as TripleA has many more options and features it will still be the number 1 choice for many A&A online players.

And even if GTO also implemented a LL feature lately, this is not enough for hardcore competitive A&A players.

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« Reply #86 on: July 24, 2009, 07:07:51 pm »
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I decided to check out GTO to see if it is any good.  Basically, the website only has 1 version of A&A, which happens to be Revised.  Also, you are allowed to play it against a computer player for free, but if you want to play against a Human player, you will have to shell out $9.00 (US) (and that is a one time thing, not every time you want to, just the first time).  There are also no options available.  Lastly, as far as the actual game went, I have no clue because it would not load despite my 4 attempts.
All in all, TripleA kicks its a**.  Not only is it free, but I can play all the different versions A&A, and play user created maps or even make my own.  The rules are hardcoded, and there are plenty of options when setting up the game.  There is an in game editor for when you want to create your own situations, or undo something, etc.  There is also a calculator to give you your chances of success in a particular battle.  There are more people in an online lobby to connect to who want to play A&A (whereas GTO has a variety of games, so when I logged on there was not a single game of A&A going, nor apparently anyone interested in it). 

Lastly, I have not received a reply to my email yet, but I read the one above (thx romulus).  This has given me an idea.  What would it cost us to buy the rights to A&A online from hasbro too?  If it is cheap, or if it could be sold as a percentage of advertising revenue (like, 100%, i don't care) generated from an ingame side panel with some non-annoying advertisement, then maybe we could just buy the damn rights instead of going underground. 
I'll send them an email next week asking who I would have to talk to.

edit: also, I have decided to start playing webdiplomacy.net (the game Diplomacy), and would encourage people to try it out.  There is no luck involved at all.
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« Reply #87 on: July 24, 2009, 07:37:13 pm »
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I have played Revised at GTO and well frankly their program sucks. I only played one game there and will never play another one. I think the view of the map is smaller than the old trippleA was as I have not played trippleA in quite sometime. Bids are not supported and if I recall correctly neither are LHTR. My impression was mainly it was some cheesy crap with more emphasis on graphics and sound effects than actual game play.
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« Reply #88 on: July 25, 2009, 05:05:03 am »
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As Subotai I registered on the Gleemax website and the registration was free at time. Now you have to pay 9.00$ (one time only) to play at GTO.

I have played some games and lately I go there to ses what they have now.
You may play Revised, with OOB rules (no LHTR), they introduced some sort of bid (it is possible to select between different fixed amounts).
The game is more involved with graphics (but they need at least some zoom feature) than with playability.
Performing amphibous operation, for example, is a nightmare, you have to select every single unit to embark in each transport...

GTO should contact TripleA community and paying for developing a TripleA version for their website... Smiley
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« Reply #89 on: August 04, 2009, 09:12:01 am »
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LMAO @ everyone in this thread getting upset because Hasbro is protecting it's intellectual rights.  I guess everyone wants to look out for their own interests, but in reality, the people in the wrong here are the developers of TripleA.  Whether the game has helped or hurt Hasbro's business, and regardless of whether or not the developers have tried to profit from the game, they have stolen from Hasbro.

Hasbro has the right to protect/control its interests and everyone should stop being so selfish and realize the full picture.  Clearly, Hasbro would like to create a revenue stream through things like a facebook application, and Hasbro should have that right.  The developers of TripleA can make a similiar game if they want, but to directly rip of Axis & Allies is completely bogus.
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