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Question: What do you do with Americans in your non-experimental game play?
100% Euro builds - 13 (18.6%)
100% Pacific Build - 12 (17.1%)
< 50% Europe builds - 15 (21.4%)
< 50% Pacific builds - 16 (22.9%)
other - 9 (12.9%)
50/50 - 5 (7.1%)
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« on: March 30, 2009, 12:04:16 pm »
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Please state if you use NO's or not, and if that effects your strat.
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2009, 12:45:13 pm »
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+NO's and I usually go almost exclusively in the Pacific because it's worth as much as Europe is.
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2009, 01:23:48 pm »
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Without NOs and no tech.  Heavy Europe.
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2009, 01:47:31 pm »
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I play with NO's.

I am beginning to lean toward splitting between ground units to Africa and a small number of ground units to Europe OR ground units to Africa and bombers for raids to Europe. Just make sure you adequately protect yourself from the Polar express. 
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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2009, 01:55:42 pm »
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Problem is, if America abandons the Pacific, there is a great chance that Japan will take W. USA for keeps without a significant (read 2 or 3 rounds of dedicated investment) investment into preventing it.  And with a Japan bored out of their mind from inactivity, they have the time and resources to blow on trying for it, or at the least, threatening it with all their extra equipment.  America just doesn't have the extra equipment that Japan does. (3 Carriers, Battleship, Cruiser, they probably put some more units in the water as well to prepare for the American attack that never came.)
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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2009, 02:08:41 pm »
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Problem is, if America abandons the Pacific, there is a great chance that Japan will take W. USA for keeps without a significant (read 2 or 3 rounds of dedicated investment) investment into preventing it.  And with a Japan bored out of their mind from inactivity, they have the time and resources to blow on trying for it, or at the least, threatening it with all their extra equipment.  America just doesn't have the extra equipment that Japan does. (3 Carriers, Battleship, Cruiser, they probably put some more units in the water as well to prepare for the American attack that never came.)

That is why I said to protect yourself from the Polar express. If you aren't building a godawful amount of naval units in the first few rounds, then you can afford to make a rapid ground unit buildup to prevent Japan from getting any ideas and have your troop train set up for the move into Africa and Europe.
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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2009, 02:42:09 pm »
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Problem is, if America abandons the Pacific, there is a great chance that Japan will take W. USA for keeps without a significant (read 2 or 3 rounds of dedicated investment) investment into preventing it.  And with a Japan bored out of their mind from inactivity, they have the time and resources to blow on trying for it, or at the least, threatening it with all their extra equipment.  America just doesn't have the extra equipment that Japan does. (3 Carriers, Battleship, Cruiser, they probably put some more units in the water as well to prepare for the American attack that never came.)

In a no NO game (which is our norm) I tend to be about 60/40 in favour of the pacific.  In a NO game about 80/20 in favour of the pacific.  America has about 2 turns where they out produce Japan, so that helps.  I agree 100% Japan can do relativly little and gain a lot of ground while at the same time being able to directly threaten America. On a side note America in the Pacific is one of the few useful times I can see using submarines.
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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2009, 03:42:40 pm »
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with NO's I usually send 2trannies 2inf 1arm and 1art to Africa turn 1.  Unless thing go horribly wrong after that, I go full out on the pacific
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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2009, 10:23:06 pm »
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I go exclusively Pacific in either '41 or '42.  Always play with NOs.
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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2009, 10:32:32 pm »
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Playing with NO's, I usually go with 80-90% builds in the Pacific.
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2009, 03:57:54 am »
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NOs on in most of my games.

America sits so deep in the turn que that which direction they go is determined by the Japanese play out. 
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2009, 04:08:04 am »
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Usually play with NO's and put more than 50% of the U.S. into the Pacific.  How much depends on Japan successes and their builds. 
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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2009, 07:37:50 am »
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With NOs -

I try to always start with a European focus.  If it is safe I may move my Pac AC/dd to Sz 56 with ftr cover.  If not they'll head to Sz 20 or protect the UK trn/dd in the South Pacific.

I try to buy heavy air and inf early.  I may wait on a trn buy until US 2, but I always set up my shuck from Wus.  Early air also can help deter some J Pac moves and quickly get to Afr or Europe.
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« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2009, 04:27:50 pm »
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I play with tech and NOs and I go pacific all the way with the fighter or bomber to the UK every so often.
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« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2009, 07:14:19 am »
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With NOs: 50-75 % spent on Europe, depending on how aggressive Japan is moving navy against the West Coast. I try to keep a West Coast fleet afloat, and also as a threat to move towards the Phillippines and East Indies if the Japanese fleet sails west. The point is to keep Japan tied up in the Pacific in order to be able to keep Africa from being lost to invasions and all fighters sent vs. the Russians, rather than an all-out offensive vs. the Japs.
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