What is a balanced Revised Bid?

[03321]

Actually having an inf in Lib makes taking Egypt more likely than having a fig to send from Ukraine if you send Germany's bomber + 1inf/1tank from Seur to Egypt in both cases (96% vs. 92%), even though you have more of a chance to kill off everything in Egypt with the fig.  And if you're thinking ahead to UK's possible Egypt counter, the chances of Germany having 2 tanks or more to hold Egypt with is 87% with 1 more inf vs. 70% with 1 more fig.  Of course in the long term you can take Egypt back again on G2, and having the extra fighter is certainly a plus.

As for Ukraine, 1 extra inf makes the attack a 74% chance for Russia to take with at least 1 tank, 88% to clear with at least 1 fig, vs. the normal 89% chance to take with 1 tank+ and 96% to clear with 1fig+.  In this case, if Russia attacks and wins (still decently likely), Germany's Egypt attack with 2inf/2arm/bom will have an 84% chance to take, but only 62% to have 2 tanks+.

[Funcioneta]

[quote author=Cmdr Jennifer I have also played games where you don't bid for extra units, you bid for reduced units for the allies (Allies chose what units are removed.)  This, so far, seems to be close to 11 IPC worth of units lost and is almost always the submarine in SZ 52 and an infantry in W. Canada. 
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What if you lost both USA's aa guns? 

[Cmdr Jennifer]

[quote author=Cmdr Jennifer I have also played games where you don't bid for extra units, you bid for reduced units for the allies (Allies chose what units are removed.)  This, so far, seems to be close to 11 IPC worth of units lost and is almost always the submarine in SZ 52 and an infantry in W. Canada. 

What if you lost both USA's aa guns? 
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AA Guns and Industrial Complexes are not units, that's why they are white and not a country color.

[Funcioneta]

ICs and aa guns are units. In fact, both prevent blitz with tanks because they are units. They are white because you can capture them.

[Perry]

Please keep yourself On-Topic. Couldn't care less about why ICs are colored white

With 22 Votes counted, we've got a weighted bidding average of 7,9

I would have thought that bids should have gone higher, given a balanced game of Revised

Oh well, the Voting continues 

[ncscswitch]

Once you break $9 in an unrestricted bid, it opens up far too many possibilities for the Axis to make quick strikes and gain an early significant lead that the Allies are hard pressed to counter.

Think about the impact of just 1 ART added to Kwang before J1 AFTER you have already added a German INF to Libya and Ukraine...

[Cmdr Jennifer]

Worse still would be +3 Infantry in Ukraine I think.  Gives Germany a real shot at taking Caucasus with enough to hold it on Germany 1.

Transport in SZ 50 +1 IPC for Japan is deadly too.

Submarine in SZ 8 is kinda deadly too, forces Russia into making a move she does not normally have to make against Norway.

+3 Infantry in Belorussia guarantees that Karelia can be stacked hard enough it will never fall as well.

(6 infantry from Belorussia, 3 Infantry from E. Europe, 3 Infantry from Norway, 2 Infantry from Germany plus all the tanks that can reach on Germany 1 is going to be one helluva stack for Russia to deal with.  Nice airbase for Germany too.)

[KGB]

If Russia does WRu/Ukr you can stack Kar even without a European bid in most games. Even if Russia has good odds attacking it, its still a good move since Germany can afford to replace its losses whereas Russia can't.