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Author Topic: Have you ever pissing your opponent off with BB  (Read 3604 times)
forzaniller
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« on: May 30, 2008, 06:25:27 pm »
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A funny one i often use

If you have a massive fleet near Englang with allies - use your Battleships every round by attacking a space with one infantry am.assault and fire the battleships.
If you play with NA us will hit avr. 1 pr round and Uk 5/6 pr round
Additional Battleships is more fun and combinet bombardment with some destroyers is perfect. The russians use to like that Germany has to hold units back for covering the western front

It may sound like a lot of work to set it up but often in my games the sceenario is often realised (mayby because i prefer KG but of course it can be used on Japs to but i think it is a waste off time eliminating their fleet

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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2008, 06:31:33 pm »
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I routinely use my BB shots whenever possible, as whichever nation I am playing...
Japan BB shots into Egypt tend to really p�ss off the Allies...

However if UK or USA invests too much in BB's, a well placed German SUB purchase can put an end to those BB shots (as I did in a game here about 2 years ago where UK had 5 BB's, that I neutralized with just an $8 purchase...)
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2008, 06:55:18 pm »
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how did the sub end it Huh
If your boats is between england and denmark you have ether norway or western europe to fire at - and the sub is just to be taking out by some airplanes if you place it in sz5
I dont get it - could you please explane

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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2008, 07:39:57 pm »
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he probably meant an $80 purchase LOL!
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2008, 08:08:31 pm »
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The sub neutralizes the Battleships' attacks because you have to complete sea battles before you can complete land battles, and since the sub is present in the sea where the BBs are, the BBs have to go after the sub first, thus rendering their nice land annihilation shots useless.
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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2008, 01:30:20 am »
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It may sound like a lot of work to set it up but often in my games the sceenario is often realised

Well, Timmy, beating a dead horse sometimes is a lot of hard work.  But sometimes, you get a T-Virus or something like that going on with your horse, and you just have to show that undead horse who's boss.  So then you better beat it, and beat it hard.  Because when they is undead hosses on dem streets -

They're Out To Get You, Better Leave While You Can
Don't Wanna Be A Boy, You Wanna Be A Man
You Wanna Stay Alive, Better Do What You Can
So Beat It, Just Beat It

You Have To Show Them That You're Really Not Scared
You're Playin' With Your Life, This Ain't No Truth Or Dare
They'll Kick You, Then They Beat You,
Then They'll Tell You It's Fair
So Beat It!
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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2008, 03:04:36 am »
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Bunnies.. your posts crack me up.

They are witty as well as insightful.

If I could, I'd give you +1 karma

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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2008, 03:56:39 am »
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how did the sub end it Huh


The UK fleet had moved to SZ5.

By placing a SUB in SZ5, the UK BB's either had to engage my SUB, or run away.  That shut down UK's BB shots into Germany and Eastern.

It also prevented the UK from doing NCM reinforcements of his land forces using the TRNs that were in SZ5 also, since they had to move in Combat Movement to either flee from the SUB, or they would engage it with the BB's.
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2008, 08:24:50 am »
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I really wouldn't mind the Allies investing in BB every round. It takes a great bite out of their income and that means less land units that go against the Axis.
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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2008, 08:30:43 am »
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It seems to me that with the UK spending that many IPC's on BB's that Germany will have very little preassure to prevent them from pushing into Russia. Beside's doesn't each BB used exclusively for bombard (assuming by the time you have 3-5 BB's you are not buying them for defense from German air  smiley) require 12 rounds of bombard to even out the cost of purchasing them? (24ips invenstment, hits 2/3 of the time, killing on average 2/3 inf = 2ipcs, 24ipcs/2ipcs per turn = 12 turns) I know that the allies can often make slightly uneven trades and still win, but it seems to me that the best winning strategy comes from making the most ecoinomicly benefitial trades and purchases. I just don't see the massive BB bombard as nearly effective as the unloading of land units into Russia.
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2008, 10:39:03 am »
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I found these 2 games currently going on in the league they seemed to be fitting for this post.

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=11670.0

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=11488.0
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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2008, 02:43:51 pm »
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WTF a Russian carrier??
(referring to that 2nd link)
personally, I don't believ in BB's either, only use the ones I got on the start, they're too expensive. Make them 22 IPC's and I'd start considering, Make them 20 and I'd start purchasing them.
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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2008, 12:56:05 am »
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The 1inf, 1BB support costs 3 IPC and damages 2.5 IPC (2 from BB + 0.5 from inf)
Worth only if transport capacity is in excess (e.g. late UK) and it goes around Allies' multi-attackers disadvantage vs Germany, which is ~1.4x.

The sacrificial sub costing 8 IPC is worthy only in desperate situations, to prevent a large BB bombardment (more than 4 BB = 8 IPC, make it 5 with the sacrificed attacker's inf), or to use scarce building 'slots' (e.g. 10 units in Germany can be 9 troops + 1 sub). And it can be crushed by UK, then US BB's can still bombard...
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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2008, 10:40:24 am »
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I have only played the one game where UK had 5 BB's, and the US had a "normal" fleet that it was using for Africa and to threaten Southern.

Also, once the "trick" of the SUB was established, it was less effective.  Although it also cost less since the UK was only in SZ5 every other round...

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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2008, 02:17:35 pm »
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Wait a sec.  I thought Battleships (I assume that is what BB stands for) cannot bombard land unless it's part of an amphibious assault, and even then, can only fire once??
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