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736  Other Forums / General Discussion / Re: NIU Shooting on: February 18, 2008, 08:15:19 am
Glad to hear your ok, they are looking at a bill in my state to allow people with CC permits to carry on campus. 
737  Other Forums / General Discussion / Re: Marines vs Soldiers on: February 18, 2008, 07:20:48 am
Well Switch is apparently a bit older than me, though I can say I joined in the 80s.  May 18th 1989.  I remember being at the dendtist, one of the few places we could see news from the real world, when the News was talking about Iraq Invading some country called Kuwait that we'd never heard of.  LOL, six monthes later I got my first National Defence medal.

Anyway, I don't mind the digital camo patern, it's the uniforms them selves that I don't like.  I think the patern is pretty good for urban, and if your sneeking around as an infantry scout you'll have a guilly suit anyway.  The problem I have with them is they are suposedly wrinkle proof (that's what they say every time we get a new uniform) the process aparently makes them not breath.  If you wash them about 100 times they get beter, but I still kinda feel like I'm wearing pajama's.

I think the AF should go back to the od greens, what do they need camo for anyway.  They were testing some blue camo a couple years ago, but someone must have realized how retarded they looked because I haven't seen them lately.
738  Other Forums / General Discussion / Re: Presidential Election (as a current event- watch the tone or it's gone) on: February 14, 2008, 01:46:56 pm
Well Guliani then Thompson and now Romney are Endorsing McCain, In a few more days Huckabee will too.  As soon as McCain officialy hits the 1190 the Huckster will drop out and suport McCain.

That's all predictable, what I didn't see coming was the speculation of VP Condi  shocked

739  Other Forums / General Discussion / Re: Is Genetically Engineering Your Children Ethical? on: February 14, 2008, 12:52:07 pm
Three arms could be usefull, I sometimes wish I had a couple extra arms or eyes...
740  Axis & Allies Miniatures / A&A Miniatures (Original) / Re: Axis and Allies Miniatures: North Africa 1939-1943 on: February 14, 2008, 08:15:47 am
Damn I haven't played mini's in months, I'm going to have to put a game together.  New mini's coming out is great news though...
741  Other Forums / General Discussion / Re: Is Genetically Engineering Your Children Ethical? on: February 14, 2008, 08:12:16 am
Yeah, I want some engineered kids, but I don't want anyone else getting them.  I wand a Bret Favre, a Kathy Ireland (with slightly bigger hips for making my grand kids) an I want one with a huge head and tiny feet, for comedic relief.  Yeah that'd be great.
742  Other Forums / General Discussion / Re: Marines vs Soldiers on: February 14, 2008, 07:45:19 am
We had the old pot's like a44BigDog's avatar, but the od's were long gone.
743  Other Forums / General Discussion / Re: Here we go again on: February 14, 2008, 07:42:29 am
I care about good fried chicken, breaded not battered, extra crispy with mashed potatoes that have real butter and cheder cheese mixed in.  That's what I care about. wink
744  Other Forums / General Discussion / Re: Presidential Election (as a current event- watch the tone or it's gone) on: February 14, 2008, 07:40:16 am
Oh, and yes, btw, I do think the Democrats have learned that pulling out of Iraq prematurely is akin to shooting themselves in the foot, politically, as it will be THEM surrendering, not Bush surrendering and that just cannot be allowed.  Thus, both Hillary and Barrack have pretty steadfastly said they will not leave Iraq until it's won.  Edwards was not so smart, he (and Kucinich) were the only two advocating surrender and withdrawal.

That is simply not true.  Obama has said time and again "16 months" I watched the California debate, did you?  Obama said "I will have the troops out in 16 months."  He also said that Hillary won't pull them out fast enough.

And, to be perfectly honest with you, I don't think McCain, Obama or Clinton WILL pull out of Iraq.  Not on THEIR watch.  They do NOT want to go down in history as THE President who backed down to terrorism and spawned the millennium of horror. (Not saying it would happen if they surrendered, but fear of it maybe happening is enough to stop them.)

It doesn't realy matter what you think, Obama is the only current presidential contender who has given a specific time table for withdrawal from Iraq.

So let's look at the REAL issues in 2008:

Protection for the United States Flag  wtf are you talking about?
Gay-Marriage  True Conservatives believe this is wrong, true republicans believe it's a states rights issue, just like McCain
Legalization of Marijuana not going to happen, not an issue
Immigration <===Probably the biggest one and one McCain and Clinton have carbon copy solutions too Am I the only one that read Obamas plan?  It's the same as everyone elses,  They are all using the same plan, the same one that McCain tryied to push through last year.  Obamas plan = pay a fine, take a test, get in line = Amnesty (acording to Rush, Hanity etc) = McCain Plan
Appointment of two Supreme Court Justices, potentially  Obama = Liberal Justice McCain = Conservative Justice
Cumbersome restrictions on business to curb green house gases, though no proof that these gases are truly the culprit 
Obama on environment:
12/14/2007 Farm, Nutrition, and Bioenergy Act of 2007 (Farm Bill) NV
12/13/2007 Energy Act of 2007 NV
12/11/2007 Government Sponsored Farm Insurance Policies Amendment NV
11/08/2007 Water Resources Development Act of 2007 NV
06/21/2007 Energy Act of 2007 Y
06/21/2007 Alternative Energy Subsidies  Y
06/14/2007 Offshore Drilling in Virginia NV
06/14/2007 Clean Energy Achievement Criteria Y
12/21/2005 Removal of ANWR Provision from HR 2863 Y
11/03/2005 ANWR Amendment Y
09/13/2005 EPA's Clean Air Mercury Rule Y

Obama is just a "green as any other democrat, thats what the majoraty want these days because of idiots like gore
Gay Adoption Privileges  See gay marriage
Religious Observance of Holidays in Public  See gay marriage
Health Insurance <===If Immigration isn't biggest, this one is.
Again the huge advantage you seem to think Obama has here is that he is saying the same thing McCain is!  If you want to compare voteing records, Obama should get some more voting time in, McCain Represents my state I Know his voting record, it's in the paper and on the news all the time.  I also know his poicies.  He is more central than I am, but Arizona is one of the most conservative states in the country

On the two biggest issues, Obama has McCain down cold.  He wants to force illegals to get documented and pass standard immigration tests or leave.  McCain wants to give them amnesty, though he's willing to put up a token border security in the form of a chain-link fence, provided it doesn't cost too much.

Obama also wants to allow you to pick your health insurance provider and only the truly destitute would get free coverage from the government, which is okay, since we already HAVE THAT.  It's called Medicare and Medicaid.  McCain has Hillary's plan in mind, screw the health insurance industry, confiscate the insurance providers and drive out all the pharmaceuticals and talented doctors in a half-baked plan to provide everyone with health insurance. (Forgetting this plan has failed everywhere it has been tried, mind you.)
Not true
I don't really enjoy Barry's plan, but ya know what, it's better then Madam Clinton or Mr. POW's plans!

Furthermore, I don't think Barry has the clout in Washington to actually succeed.  Thus, his first term in office will hopefully be a complete flop and he can turn out to be another Carter.  This will allow the Republicans to come to their fracking senses and find a d@mn conservative in 2012 to run against the do nothing Obama!

And, if all that isn't enough, at least Obama is a muslim!  He should have more clout with the terrorists then a Christian who they can demonize as a crusader.  Can't exactly be a muslim crusader, right?  That's called just being an insurrectionist, or insurgent or something.  But I can tell ya this, Muslims are not what you think of when you see pictures of the Knights Templar!

Jen you make my head hurt, I need a motrin and a nap.  Chickens are Chickens Ducks are Ducks and Obama is one of the most liberal democrats in the government.  McCain is a states rights conservative Republican.  And you listen to the radio too much...
745  Other Forums / General Discussion / Re: Presidential Election (as a current event- watch the tone or it's gone) on: February 13, 2008, 02:13:09 pm
He goes in to more detail here:

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/pdf/IraqFactSheet.pdf

He wants to pull out the troops in the secure areas first and then try to pull out the ones in the "more volatile areas". 

 rolleyes
746  Other Forums / General Discussion / Re: Presidential Election (as a current event- watch the tone or it's gone) on: February 13, 2008, 02:07:41 pm
Jen, this is straight from Obama's campaign website:

"Obama has a plan to immediately begin withdrawing our troops engaged in combat operations at a pace of one or two brigades every month, to be completed by the end of next year."

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/iraq/

Like I said he is either Lying or an Idiot.  Which is worse?
747  Axis & Allies Miniatures / A&A Miniatures Painting and Modeling / Re: 4 Turan II tank mods on: February 12, 2008, 11:46:18 am
Looks good, heluvalot better than I could do.
748  Other Forums / General Discussion / Re: Presidential Election (as a current event- watch the tone or it's gone) on: February 12, 2008, 08:51:28 am
Barrack is for change, for smaller government, he's stated that he WILL NOT LEAVE IRAQ BEFORE 2009

More later, but one quick note, IF he is elected, he won't take office until 2009, so it would be dificult to leave Iraq before he's elected, also I have heard him say that he would have everyone out 16 months after he takes office.  That is either a lie or he is ignorant.  Last time I looked there were plus or minus 20 brigades in Iraq.  If you start moving out a brigade a month who will the luck last couple brigades be?  I can tell you what they'll be and that is screwed.  I don't know about you but I think it would be great fun to be the guys paking their crap after a 95% troop reduction in a years time.  That kind of movement isn't a withdrawal it's a rout.  In a full scale rout of that nature the guys in the back are FUBAR.
749  Other Forums / General Discussion / Re: Marines vs Soldiers on: February 11, 2008, 01:09:05 pm
The field uniform change has been in the workd for a long time part of the futrue force warrior program.  It is suposed to be designed to be fiited with electronics for weapon integration, cameras, battery packs, beter knee elbow pads etc. I think they made the ACUs as an attempt to get rid of the multiple camo paturns, Desert and Woodland it also add som of the ideas planned for 2010.  That when the new Uniforms are suposed to come out.  It's a different camo too, I think it's called multicam or something like that.

As for the class A's yep, they are doing away with the greens.  Personaly I think they should get rid of the greens and the blues and put something together that resembles the Ike jacket with kakki shirt from the 50's.  That uniform had style.
750  Other Forums / General Discussion / Re: Marines vs Soldiers on: February 11, 2008, 09:32:11 am
Well mine are Army and I want my DCUs back.
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